1God: FOREKNOWLEDGE In What form and how Christ "pre-existed" Bethlehem?

 

1God Series © FOREKNOWLEDGE:

In what form Christ "pre-existed" Bethlehem.
-by rory moore 

The Scriptures state Christ had glory before the the foundation of the world so that leads us to ask...

Was Christ a person, a Spirit being pre-existing with His heavenly Father before coming into the world as "God incarnate"? 
The Trinitarian thinks so, but a Onenness-Modalist believes GOD the Father "incarnated" Himself into a man leaving the throne vacant while He was on earth.
Was he an angel? A Spirit-being? 

-since those in scripture who saw heaven did not tell us of a multiplicity of God-persons, (see their words here), how can we reconcile passages such as:

John 17:5 
And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.

Let's look at how Christ could be "with" the Father before Bethlehem.

Along this thought, compare that GOD did "know" Jeremiah before he was born.

Jeremiah 1: 4 Now the word of the LORD (GOD) came to me saying, 5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

-and that my friend is foreknowledge. Foreknowledge was "with" GOD from eternity. 

 The prophets who saw the throne and saw God, YHVH, the God and Father of Jesus Christ, who would be born at Bethlehem.
They are Macaiah, Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel. Moses and the elders also saw into heaven in Exodus 24:12, and John in Revelation 4-5.

Ezekiel 1:26 is most detailed vision. Since only One God with a "form" and "likeness of a man" was seen and because Christ is "the Son of man", how could Christ have glory "before the world was"? 

The answer that resolves this beautifully is that Jesus was glorified before he was born, in God's foreknowledge.  “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you”.

Foreknowledge:

22 “Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know
23  𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝑴𝒂𝒏, 𝒅𝒆𝒍𝒊𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒅 𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒃𝒚 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒑𝒓𝒆𝒅𝒆𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒎𝒊𝒏𝒆𝒅 𝒑𝒍𝒂𝒏 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒆𝒌𝒏𝒐𝒘𝒍𝒆𝒅𝒈𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝑮𝒐𝒅, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death.

Foreknowledge:
John 17:24: that they may behold my glory, which You have given me: for You loved me before the foundation of the world. 

Foreknowledge:
1 Peter 1:20 For He was foreknown before the foundation of the world, but has appeared in these last times for the sake of you

Foreknowledge:
Romans 8:29   For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Foreknowledge:
Ephesians 1:4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world,

Foreknowledge.
Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Foreknowledge.
Acts 15:18 Known to God are all his works from the beginning of the world

Foreknowledge.
Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

How then was Christ sharing glory with God before the world existed? If he was not seen as a literal person, an angel, or a collateral second God-person, how might we reconcile?

I believe it was evidenced by the Father's eternal "foreknowledge" and that answers the many verses that seem to put the man, Christ Jesus as a pre-existing person.

If there is a shred of doubt, look again at the resurrection gospel preached by Peter at the beginning of the Spirit-filled church in Acts 2:

22 “Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know

 23 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝑴𝒂𝒏, 𝒅𝒆𝒍𝒊𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒅 𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒃𝒚 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒑𝒓𝒆𝒅𝒆𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒎𝒊𝒏𝒆𝒅 𝒑𝒍𝒂𝒏 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒆𝒌𝒏𝒐𝒘𝒍𝒆𝒅𝒈𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝑮𝒐𝒅, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death.

1God WHO raised Jesus from the dead?

 How was Jesus raised from the dead?
compiled by rory moore

John 2:18 The Jews then said to Him, “What sign do You show us as your authority for doing these things?” 19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” 

20 The Jews then said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?”
 21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body.

This will clear up the misconception whether Jesus as God raised his dead body from the grave, or Jesus as a man was raised by God the Father.

Is Jesus GOD and raised Himself from the dead?
It does sound like he did from his words in John 2.

But like other topics, a closer look at God's Word reveals the truth.

We find more in John 10:17 For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again. 18 No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. 

This commandment I received from My Father.” (NASB95)

Let's compare it in the Complete Jewish Bible:

No one takes it away from me; on the contrary, I lay it down of my own free will. I have the power to lay it down, and I have the power to take it up again. This is what my Father commanded me to do.”

In the Names of God version: 
No one takes my life from me. I give my life of my own free will. I have the authority to give my life, and I have the authority to take my life back again. This is what my Father ordered me to do.”

No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded.” from the NLT.

How did Jesus raise himself according to this passage? As in all He did, it was in obedience to a command and at the direction of The Father.

Now to solidify this truth, we have the following list of scriptures that all say the same thing in giving God the Father the glory for raising Jesus Christ, and knowing He did so by giving that command to Jesus to speak prophetically over his death and resurrection. As it is written:

John 12:49 For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.

Now that we know how it came about for Christ to say he would raise himself from the dead, I will leave you with  20 verses stating GOD raised Christ from the dead:

Acts 2:32 This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses. 

Acts 3:15 and killed the Prince of life; whom God raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

Acts 4:10 be it known to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even in him does this man stand here before you whole.

Acts 13:30 But God raised him from the dead:

Acts 13:34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he has spoken on this wise, I will give you the holy and sure blessings of David.

Acts 17:31 inasmuch as he has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness ***by the man whom HE has ordained***; whereof HE has given assurance to all men, in that HE has raised him <Christ> from the dead.

Romans 4:24 for our sake also, who believe on Him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him through baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:9 knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dies no more; death no more has dominion over him.

Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ; that ye should be joined to another, even to him who was raised from the dead, that we might bring forth fruit to God.

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead lives in you, HE that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead shall give life also to your mortal bodies through his Spirit that lives in you.

Romans 8:34 who is he that condemns? It is Christ Jesus that died, yea rather, that was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.

Romans 10:9 because if you shall confess with the mouth Jesus as Lord, and shall believe in thy heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shall be saved:

1 Corinthians 15:12 Now if Christ is preached that he has been raised from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

1 Corinthians 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we witnessed of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead are not raised.

 Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle (not from men, neither through man, but through Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead),

Ephesians 1:20 which he wrought in Christ, when HE raised him from the dead, and made him to sit at his right hand in the heavenly places,

Colossians 2:12 having been buried with him in baptism, wherein ye were also raised with him through faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom HE raised from the dead, even Jesus, who delivered us from the wrath to come.

1 Peter 1:21 who through him are believers in God, that raised him from the dead, and gave him glory; so that your faith and hope might be in God.

"My Lord and My God"

Thomas answered and said to him, My Lord and my God.

People often point to that verse as a doctrine but ignore two other passages in the same chapter that do not agree with what they *think* Thomas meant. 

Let’s examine three key verses in the same chapter.

20:17 Jesus *said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them:
‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God’

20:28 And Thomas answered and said to him, My Lord and my God.

20:31  <John> but these have been written  that you may believe that  Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.

( which is the same revelation Peter confessed in Mat. 16, and the same message the apostles preached all through Acts.

These are FOUR possible meanings.

1.  Thomas calling him Lord ( as one of authority) and God (an eloheim,in his resurrected state),
or
2.  As an exclamation, MY LORD AND MY GOD! -as an expression of shock and surprise out to GOD above, as people do.
or
3. Calling him LORD (Yhwh) and GOD (The Almighty)
or
4. Calling Jesus "master" <Lord: kyrios: lord, master, sir. (that is not YHVH/Jehovah the Father)  and my God.  <theos/ eloheim. A word also applied to men, judges and kings) 

Just reading a few verses before should help us understand that which is the best view.

John 20:17 (NASB) Jesus *said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 
'I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.'"

Because the word “God” or “theos” are not exclusive terms for the Almighty. 

It may refer to anything likened unto God, Gods Representative, or one entrusted with the word of God, a judge, a ruler, or king. All of which apply to Jesus.

Jesus said the Father is the ONLY true God and he said the Father is "MY God".

John said exactly why he wrote in John 20:31(NASB)

but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.

Summary:
How many times did anyone say or preach  “Jesus IS GOD”?  -0.
How many times did anyone say or preach Jesus is the “SON of God?  42 Times (NASB)

GOD or god?:

Consider:

1. Why is there not a single example in Acts of anyone saying "Jesus is God” as they preached who Jesus is?

2.  And is the word “God" exclusive to the God and Father of Jesus Christ?
3.  are men called "God" also?

A letter "H" with a number refers to the original Hebrew word. 

ex. H410    "eloheim":  is used as God, Gods, judges, rulers.
A letter "G"with a number refers to the original Greek word. 
ex. G2316 "theos":  God/Gods  

 -The  word for "god" and “God”  in the *Greek is "theos",  and is used of men also, as Jesus said to the leaders of Israel when he quoted  "ye are gods.."

John 10:34-35 Jesus answered them, “Has it not been written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’?  If HE (GOD-Father) called them gods <theos>, to whom the word of GOD <theos> came ".....

Do you see that men are called "gods" -theos, and "Word of GOD" -theos are used  in the same verse and refer to BOTH men and *GOD ?   <*The LORD Almighty>.

So why are men as "God/s?
The truth is both "theos" in the Greek, and "eloheim" in the OT Hebrew can refer to The One true God, OR TO AN EXALTED MAN OR MEN.

What Thomas, a Jewish Israelite, knew from his Hebrew Bible:
Psalm 58:11 Do you indeed speak righteousness, O gods? Do you judge uprightly, O sons of men?

Psalm 81:9 9 "Let no strange god be among you; Nor shall you worship any foreign god.

Psalm 89:26 26 "He will cry to Me, 'You are my Father, My God <H410>, and the rock of my salvation.'

In Daniel 11:36 this is demonstrated as “the GOD of Gods”:
GOD <H410> <a reference to YHWH Almighty> and god <H410, generic god/s>
“The GOD H410 of gods”

Moses was "eloheim-god” to pharaoh in Exodus 4:16, Baal a false god was  eloheim, the human judges were "eloheim" the same word used for GOD. 
And YHWH<aka Jehovah> was "Eloheim",  even though YHWH was above all that is called "god".

Again we find this in the New Testament:
Hebrews 1:8-9 but of the Son HE <i.e. GOD> says, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore GOD, thy GOD, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Here is another example of  the same word:

1 Corinthians 8:5 For even if there are so-called gods <theos>

=>> whether in heaven or on earth, ==> as indeed there are many gods <theos> and many lords, 
6 yet for us there is but one GOD <theos> , the FATHER, |
from whom are all things and we exist for HIM; 
AND one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

Therefore Thomas could call the risen Christ "my God" in the same sense of an exalted man, a ruler, a "mighty one":

G2316 θεός theos   uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with G3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively a magistrate; by Hebraism very: - exceeding, God, god [-ly, -ward].

"God" H430 eloheim

Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates (judges and rulers); and sometimes as a superlative: - angels,  exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly),  (very) great, judges,  mighty.

This also reconciles Isaiah 9:6 “his name shall be called … mighty God..”,  
"The LORD (YHWH) said to my Lord...",  and Hebrews 1 "to the *son* *HE* said "thy throne O God..."

The John 20:28 passage has stumbled many because of our English word concepts with  three possible meanings. We take clear passages with only one meaning when trying to understand passages that seem to have more than one meaning.

Witnesses are needed to establish any doctrine.

"In the mouth of two or three witness let every word be established".

 How many times is Jesus called “son of God” vs the times someone said “Jesus is God”? (using NASB/ or KJV)

And compare that to those that said "You are THE CHRIST" and You are "THE SON OF GOD", and include all those preachers filled with the Spirit in Acts when they told people who Jesus is..

1God Putting Thomas to Rest, My God it's Time

Time to change our view. 

A man asked:
“QUESTION to you anti-christ's here who say Thomas is not directing "my God" to him (Jesus).

Why is it that all the scriptures of the gospels, regarding the apostles walking with Jesus, they all already called him "Lord"?
But now that Thomas is saying "My Lord and my God", so that Jesus is saying "you have seen me and have believed" Believed what? That he lives?
Thomas was the LAST of the apostles to see Jesus alive again.

So.... It wasn't him seeing Jesus as his "Lord"/"Master". What was it that Thomas saw?
Could it be something similar <the revelation> to when Peter said "you are the Christ the son of God" and Jesus said "flesh and blood has not shown you this Peter bar Jonas, but my Father in Heaven has revealed it to you". 

My answer so that we can put Thomas to rest.

1. Calling  Jesus “Lord” is not calling Jesus “Yehovah”. “Lord” is master, kurios, not LORD/Yehovah” the Father.
Jesus is named Jesus. 
Yehovah called HIMSELF “YEHOVAH”, “my name forever”.

2. “ Could it be something similar to when Peter said "you are the Christ the son of God" and Jesus said "flesh and blood hath not shown you this Peter bar Jonas, but my Father in Heaven has revealed it to you".

Did Jesus affirm Thomas’ exclamation with a similar affirmation as Jesus did with Peter saying: 
"flesh and blood has not shown you this Peter barJona, but my Father in Heaven has revealed it to you"?  NO!

3. Was Thomas with the others and received the Holy Ghost in Acts 2?  YES!
4. Did Thomas preach the “similar revelation” in Acts?  NO!
5. Did Peter preach Thomas’ “similar revelation in Acts ?   NO!

6. Did PETER preach his “revelation” of Jesus in Acts?  YES!
7. According to Joseph Russell, is Peter “antichrist” for not preaching the “Deity of Christ” and/ or Thomas’ exclamation?   YES!
8. Did Peter preach the revelation of Jesus Christ in Acts? YES! (numerous times)
9. Do I believe and preach what Peter preached? -YES!

10. Did Peter preach the words “Deity of Christ”  –NO!
11. Was Thomas present when "Peter, taking his stand with the eleven, raised his voice and declared to them” who Jesus is? –YES!

Acts 2:22 “Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him…³⁶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified.”

 Acts 3: 6 But Peter said, “I do not possess silver and gold, but what I do have I give to you: In the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene—walk!

Acts 4:8
  Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them..
10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead
—26 ‘The kings of the earth took their stand, And the rulers were gathered together against the Lord and against His Christ.’

27 For truly in this city there were gathered together against Your holy servant Jesus, whom You anointed

Acts 5: ³⁰ The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you had put to death by hanging Him on a cross. ³¹ He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel.
 :42 every day.. they kept right on teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ. 

-BUT they were not “teaching and preaching Jesus is God”.

Acts 10, Peter:
The word which He sent to the sons of Israel, preaching peace through Jesus Christ (He is Lord of all)
— ³⁷ you yourselves know the thing which took place throughout all Judea, starting from Galilee, after the baptism which John proclaimed. 
³⁸ You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power

Do the preachers in Acts affirm the antichrist accusation or state the “Jesus is God” doctrine?
NO!

PART 2 Thinking it over.
Does Thomas exclaiming "...MY GOD" in one place override and negate Jesus calling GOD "MY GOD" in FOURETEEN references? 
Thomas said it in an undefined manner as an exclamation without another person saying the same words or quoting him,  but when Jesus says it 14 times in specifics, should that be ignored?

If we want to speculate,  ASSUMING Thomas is saying to Jesus "YOU ARE MY LORD AND MY GOD!" runs into Jesus saying I ascend "TO MY GOD and your God..." same chapter.

LISTEN TO JESUS!

Matthew 27:46
 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, **MY GOD**, **MY GOD**, why have you forsaken me?

Mark 15:34
Jesus cried with a loud voice, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, **MY GOD** , **MY GOD**, why hast thou forsaken me?

John 20:17
 Jesus said to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to the Father: but go unto my brethren, and say to them, I ascend to MY FATHER and your Father, and **MY GOD** and your God.

Revelation 3:2
 Be thou watchful, and establish the things that remain, which were ready to die: for I have found no works of thine perfected before ** MY GOD**.

Revelation 3:12 He that overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of **MY GOD**, and he shall go out thence no more: and I will write upon him the name of **MY GOD**,

and the name of the city of **MY GOD**, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from **MY GOD**, and mine own new name....

Can you see the truth?
Neither "Jesus is God", nor "Jesus is my God" was ever preached. Only by inferences and imposing the traditional view over passages such as John 20:28 do people make scripture say what is not said.

My other post on Thomas is HERE.

Putting Thomas to Rest "My God" it's Time

Deconstructing the "Israel" Deception Pt 7 "They Say they Are Jews BUT ARE NOT"

They Say they Are Jews BUT THEY ARE NOT?

Bible readers may have read Revelation and Jesus calling out the "fake" Jews, but few can identify them..
I think that is changing.

They Say they Are Jews BUT ARE NOT?
Jesus said this, and He was a Tribe of Judah, a Judean "Jew" also.
Do we believe he would say that for no good reason?

Revelation 2:9  I know thy works and tribulation and poverty (but you are rich), and I know the blasphemy of them that say they are Jews and are not but are the synagogue <congregation> of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie — behold, I will make them to come and bow down at your feet, and to know that I have loved you.

One may ask "WHO is a JEW?" and proceed to find out that not all that say they are Jews are!

Jews according to the flesh: real and fake.
The Originals: Judeans, tribe of Judah, seed of Israel/ Jacob, and Abraham, Semitic.
Records were kept for their genealogy and recorded through the time of Christ.
They became “Southern” kingdom of Judah and Benjamin after a civil war.
The "northern" kingdom retained the name "Israel" after the civil war.
They were the inhabitants, political and religious leaders "sitting in Moses seat", according to Jesus and who ruled Jerusalem under the authority of the Roman governors. (Herod, Pilate).
at the time of Christ.

“Jews”  have come to represent all of Hebraic Israel collectively. -an inaccuracy with alarming repercussions. 

They, as a nation collectively rejected Christ and then were rejected, judged by God, and scattered.
From them a remnant were saved through the preaching of the Jewish apostles in ACTS.
The ”kingdom” of Israel was declared “desolate” by Jesus,
 the Jews nation ceased to exist.

The genealogy records proving the Jewish-Israel bloodlines were destroyed in the temple conflagration in 70AD, effectively “blotting out” the names of the physical tribes. (however the spiritual tribes in Christ retain the spiritual identity through the meaning of the tribal names.)

Jews according to being children of Abraham: real vs fake.
When the names of the 12 physical tribes were “blotted out” in the judgement in 70AD, the names of Israel and the 12 tribes were transferred to a new nation “ALL ISRAEL”, which is the people of GOD, BOTH Jewish Israelites AND NON JEWS who are  “IN CHRIST”.

The change to the spiritual Israelite in Christ eliminates the national identities of both Jew and non Jew.
Hence Ephesians 2:  now in Christ Jesus, you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For He is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of partition between us,

Again:
Galatians 3: as many of you as have been baptized into Christ, have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female; for
you are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if you be Christ’s, then are you Abraham’s seed and heirs

Jesus is the One New Man, the true Israelite, the King of “ALL ISRAEL”,
and His kingdom, the "nation bring forth fruits",  “is not of this world”. 

In HIM are fulfilled the promises of God through Abraham's descendants. In HIM is a "kingdom NOT of this world".
Ephesians 4:18 having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them because of the blindness of their heart,

Romans 1:21  For when they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God, nor were thankful, but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

𝐆𝐨𝐝'𝐬 𝐜𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐞𝐧 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐞 𝐢𝐧 𝐂𝐡𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐭,

𝐇𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐞𝐞𝐝 𝐨𝐟 𝐀𝐛𝐫𝐚𝐡𝐚𝐦, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐉𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐇𝐢𝐬 𝐨𝐟𝐟𝐬𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 (𝐬𝐞𝐞𝐝), 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐞𝐬 𝐛𝐞𝐥𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐎𝐧𝐞 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐟𝐮𝐥𝐟𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐝 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 - 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐨𝐟𝐟𝐬𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐣𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐭 𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫𝐬.

𝐔𝐧𝐛𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥 𝐢𝐬 𝐚𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐥𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐞𝐬 𝐰𝐚𝐲 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐎𝐥𝐝 𝐓𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐧 𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐫𝐮𝐞 𝐭𝐨𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐉𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐬 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐩𝐬 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧,

𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐚𝐧 𝐢𝐧𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐥𝐚𝐧𝐝, 𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐲 𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐛𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠.

Israel: Breaking The Paradigm PART 6 MUST READ

 

for many, the whole Israel paradigm has been broken. After I was writing and researching for my article "Where Israel Began", I saw the truth.

It happened as I was reading through Genesis, Exodus, and Deuteronomy especially, and there I saw in God’s Word to Israel the Covenant conditions God gave to them to occupy the land. The Lord brought to my attention and surprise after many years, I realized what God said about Israel and the land, in their Bible. i.e., the OLD Testament.

IMPORTANT!! You are about to read how God gave Israel the holy land and the CONDITIONS for occupation in His land:

Leviticus 18: 26 You (Israel) shall therefore keep My statutes and My judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations, neither any of your own nation nor any stranger who sojourns among you
27 (for all these abominations have the men of the land done, who were before you, and the land is defiled),
28 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒍𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐 𝒔𝒑𝒆𝒘 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒘𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒅𝒆𝒇𝒊𝒍𝒆 𝒊𝒕, 𝒂𝒔 𝒊𝒕 𝒔𝒑𝒆𝒘𝒆𝒅 𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒘𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒃𝒆𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒆 𝒚𝒐𝒖.
The same verse as stated in the Complete Jewish Bible Version reads:
that the land not vomit you out also when ye defile it, as it spewed out the nations that were before you.

Here is a synopsis of the Law Moses gave them that addresses the Holy Land occupation:
Leviticus 20:22 ‘Therefore you shall keep 𝐀𝐋𝐋 𝐌𝐲 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐭𝐞𝐬 and 𝐀𝐋𝐋 𝐌𝐲 𝐣𝐮𝐝𝐠𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐬, and do them, 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐥𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐈 𝐛𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐭𝐨 𝐝𝐰𝐞𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐢𝐧 𝐯𝐨𝐦𝐢𝐭 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐨𝐮𝐭.

This is repeated in Deut. 28:63
Just as the LORD was once pleased with you and gave you good and made you grow in number, so then the LORD will be happy to ruin and destroy you, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒘𝒊𝒍𝒍 𝒃𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒎𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒅 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒍𝒂𝒏𝒅.

I saw that for Israel to live in the land, God gave firm instructions and required ALL obedience. In His first chastisement Israel was taken by Assyria and later Judah were taken captive to Babylon for 70 years.

A remnant returned to the land according to Daniel's prophecy, and the genealogy records were used to "prove" their rights and bloodlines (in Ezra and Nehemiah), to rebuild and restore the city and temple in Jerusalem. Rome followed and took over but the JUDEANS (Jews) occupied another 400+ years to the prophesied coming of Messiah, the Christ, and The Prophet of God. Isaiah 53, Deuteronomy 28.

In 70AD that was literally fulfilled except for the Jewish remnant who believed and followed Jesus Christ, who fled before the destruction. Before that, in 33AD the nation of Israel committed the abomination of desolation by rejecting the Son of God, Jesus Christ, even invoking a generational blood curse on themselves.

Our loving Heavenly Father God still gave them about 42 months to repent because Jesus asked Father to "forgive them for they know not what they do". Thus Peter confronted them with their rejection of Jesus of Nazareth in Acts 2,3,4,5 and Stephen in Acts 7-8.

However the leaders and majority still rejected Christ and went on to persecute and shed the blood of His disciples. Acts 7 saw the completion of the grace toward the nation as a whole, save the smaller number of individual Jews and Israelites who repented.
See Acts 3:5, Acts 4, Acts 5, and the persecution that rose up around Stephen in Acts 7-8.

By the numbers again. "7" is "completion" and Stephen's testimony to the High Priest and leaders of Israel, sealed with his blood, finished the condemnation of the nation-kingdom of Israel.

"8" symbolizes "a new beginning", and in Acts 8 the gospel was taken to mixed-blood Samaria, and a people held in contempt by the Jews. This was followed by chapter *9*, nine symbolizing "finality of judgement", the conversion of Saul, and lo and behold, the gospel goes to the gentiles in Acts 10 with Peter.

Jesus had prophesied Jerusalem's terrible destruction in Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark 13. The fulfillment came on the same exact date as it had 400+ years before by the Babylonians, the second time by Rome, and Rome went beyond what Babylon had done, with an utter desolation of the city, the temple, the priesthood of Levites, the nation, the Christ-rejecting majority, the gemellology records, and the nation itself. *Jerusalem was destroyed TWICE on the *9th* of Av on the Jewish calendar.

Is it any wonder that they filled the cup of God's wrath?

He sent the armies of Rome and utterly destroyed the temple, the city, the nation, the genealogy records, the calendar, the priesthood of Levites after 70AD in a cataclysmic, horrific "day of Vengeance". The Roman army encircled Jerusalem in a 3 year long siege trapping hundreds of thousand Jewish pilgrims who went there to keep the Passover Feast.
When the city fell, Jewish blood literally ran down the streets as they slaughtered men, women, and children in a frenzied vengeance. The fall of Jerusalem is chronicled in the writings of Josephus, "Wars of the Jews".

The exception to the slaughter were the Jewish saints, Christians that heeded the words and prophecy of Christ, "when YOU SEE Jerusalem compassed by armies, know that its' desolation is near".

With all the above, I see no reason for a God-ordained mixed-blood nation in the land of Israel. ALL of us: Jews and non-Jews, false Jews, mixed blood, are all condemned under sin, and all need Jesus Christ. There is no separate salvation or valid Covenant apart from Christ. It is noted that Jesus' prophecy over Jerusalem said nothing about another Jewish nation coming back, not did Paul in his writings.

It appears we have been very deceived by dispensationalism prophecy about a literal return to the land that were already fulfilled after a return from Babylon in 564-600 BC..

Therefore I cannot take sides or support the Israeli genocide in Gaza nor the Israeli MOSSAD-created Hamas and their atrocities. Satan is a murderer and destroyer while waving the designated flags of those he operates through.

Now as a WORLDLY nation, Israel, with a special calling and history with God, and the patriarchs, they have a cover story that appears to make them legit. But upon examination through the lens of the Old Testament, and the NEW Testament, I cannot give them legitimacy.

Modern Israel is no different than the gentile nations, their fellow Semites, and are doing the same things other nations do to oppress, lie, and wage war. If they knew their Bible, they would repent and be converted to Jesus Christ their prophesied Messiah.

See Deuteronomy 18:18-19, Isaiah 53, Malachi 3:1

ONLY the return of Jesus will restore all, restore the kingdom, and be ruled by Christ's body which is BOTH Jew and non-Jew. -according to many scriptures. Because of the utter destruction and dispersion in 70AD, much prophecy was fulfilled, and yes, Jesus IS returning.

There is no more Jewish calendar from Exodus, given to the New Testament saints to observe, hence "NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY NOR HOUR" of His return.

Because of what events are taking shape around us, I am of the opinion we are in the season of His return. The Powers that Be are bent on destroying humanity and earth itself, my prayer is for Jesus to return to rule and reign.

For those that still think a pre or mid trib rapture is going to evacuate them, please see my posts "Rapture Made Simple" and several others. The so-called "Dispensational" view is just another deception, just as modern "Israel" is.

The testimony of a Christian woman that is there. https://rumble.com/v4dmiur-the-truth-about-israel-and-palestine-that-right-and-left-wing-media-refuse-.html

-rory moore Fall 2023 TO BE CONTINUED in a VERY IMPORTANT SERIES.