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Monday, October 17, 2022

12 or 24, How Many Apostles and Revelation Elders?

 


How Many Apostles Were There?
You may be surprised at what a careful examination of God's Word tells us.
-rory moore





Acts 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments to the apostles whom he had chosen:

 Acts 1:13 
And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphæus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
At this point, there are 11 named as apostles.

#12 Matthias replaced Judas.
Acts 1:26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. 

#13 Paul  
#14 Barnabbas.
 

Acts 13:2 While they were serving the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set Barnabas and Saul apart for Me for the work to which I have called them.”  Then, when they had fasted, prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.  So, being sent out by the Holy Spirit they went.

 Acts 14:4 confirmed: But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of this, they rent their clothes

#15 Silvanus
#16 Timothy
58 plurals regarding the "apostles": 
"we" "our" "us", used with the context of “apostles” in 1Thess
.

And from 1Thessalonians1:1  Paul, and Silvanus, and Timothy, to the church of the Thessalonians in God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace.
(9 remember, brethren, our labor and travail: working night and day, that we might not burden any of you, we preached to you the gospel of God.

ch. 2:4)    but even as we have been approved of God to be entrusted with the gospel, so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God who prove our hearts. 5)    For neither at any time were we found using words of flattery, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness, God is witness; 6)    nor seeking glory of men, neither from you nor from others, when we might have claimed authority as apostles  (plural) of Christ.

Again, Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy in 2Thessalonians:3
(6 
 Now we command you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother or sister who leads a disorderly life and not one in accordance with the tradition which you received from us.  
7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example, because we did not act in an undisciplined way among you, nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with labor and hardship we working night and day so that we would not be a burden to any of you; not because we do not have the right to this, but in order to offer ourselves as a role model for you, so that you would follow our example.  10 For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order:
 if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either.  
11 For we hear that some among you are leading an undisciplined life, doing no work at all, but acting like busybodies. 
12 Now we command and exhort such persons in the Lord Jesus Christ to work peacefully and eat their own bread.  

In 2 Thessalonians chapter 3, there are 14 plurals used in context of the apostles ministry.   And 24 plurals total. “—because our testimony to you was believed.”
in 1Thess. 2:6 “as apostles…” : there are a total of 58 plural references from them, Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy, as “apostles”,  from Paul the writer.

 I see solid evidence of 16 apostles through these passages, perhaps there are others such as Apollos?

#17 Apollos.
1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
1 Corinthians 3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
1 Cor 4:6  And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written

#18 Luke an apostle. The writer of Acts. Paul's companion who *may* have replaced Barnabas when Barnabas and Paul separated later in the Acts narrative.

#19 Epaphroditus 
Philippians 2:25 But I thought it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother and fellow worker and fellow soldier, who is also your *messenger and minister..
*The translators should have said “apostle” here because the Greek word is “apostolos”.

"apostolos": noun-masculine.
Definition: a delegate, messenger, one sent forth with orders
specifically applied to the twelve apostles of Christ
in a broader sense applied to other eminent Christian teachers
of Barnabas of Timothy and Silvanus.

Titus: #21
2Cor. 8:23 
about Titus, he is my partner and fellow helper concerning you. Or if our brethren be inquired about, they are the *messengers of the churches and the glory of Christ. *apostolos.

John Mark #22
Acts 12:25 
And Barnabas and Saul returned from Jerusalem when they had fulfilled their ministry, and took with them John, whose surname was Mark.  (this is not John the son of Zebedee)

#23 Judas
#24 Silas.
Both were  sent, both were prophets (as were Paul and Barnbbas before they were sent out)

Acts 15:27/32/40 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same by mouth.
Judas and Silas, being prophets also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and strengthened them. Paul chose Silas and departed, being commended by the brethren unto the grace of God.

If this is accurate, we have 24 apostles who are the elders in Revelation 4:4, 4:10 and several more mentions.

"And round about the throne were four and twenty seats; and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment, and they had on their heads crowns of gold."

Junia?  Some assert "Junia" was an apostle.

Let's test.
1. apostle is "apostolos" in the Greek, a masculine noun. Like husband, brother, prophet.
2. Paul credited Junia and Andronica as fellow prisoners, kinsmen, and that they were "IN CHRIST" before him.
This means they were serving the Lord before Paul's conversion.
There is no mention of either Andronicus or Junia named as apostles ever.
3. Paul and Barnabbas were the first apostles added and called apostles in Acts 13. Prior to them, there is no other apostles named after Acts 1 where the Eleven were mentioned, and they cast lots to replace Judas who fell. Two MEN were selected and the Lord's lot fell upon Matthias.
Acts 1:23
they appointed two: Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, 👉and Matthias.
24 And they prayed and said, “Thou, Lord, who knows the hearts of all men, show us which of these two Thou hast chosen,
25 that he may take part of this ministry and apostleship from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.”
26 And they cast their lots, and the lot fell upon Matthias;
and 👉 he was numbered with the eleven apostles.
4. 𝐒𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐉𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐚 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐀𝐧𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐢𝐜𝐮𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 "𝐢𝐧 𝐂𝐡𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐭" 𝐛𝐞𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐏𝐚𝐮𝐥, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐏𝐚𝐮𝐥 𝐜𝐚𝐦𝐞 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐨 𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐚𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐭𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐩 𝐢𝐧 𝐀𝐜𝐭𝐬 𝟏𝟑,
𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐧𝐨 𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐫𝐝 𝐨𝐟 𝐞𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐉𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐚 𝐨𝐫 𝐀𝐧𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐢𝐜𝐮𝐬 being "𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐧",
-it seems quite the stretch to turn Junia into an apostle based on this one phrase:
"Junias, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles,
who also have been in Christ before me."
With no prior record of Junia being called an apostle, and no reference of her being one in any other mention of the names of the other apostles like Barnabbas, Epaphroditus, Silvanus, Timothy, and Lukes writing in Acts,
𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐎𝐍𝐋𝐘 𝐀𝐏𝐎𝐒𝐓𝐋𝐄𝐒 𝐁𝐄𝐅𝐎𝐑𝐄 𝐏𝐀𝐔𝐋 𝐀𝐍𝐃 𝐁𝐀𝐑𝐍𝐀𝐁𝐁𝐀𝐒 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝟏𝟏 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐌𝐚𝐭𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐚𝐬!
𝒘𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝑱𝒖𝒅𝒂𝒔 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒓𝒆𝒑𝒍𝒂𝒄𝒆𝒅, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒄𝒉𝒐𝒔𝒆 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝑻𝑾𝑶 𝑴𝑬𝑵. -𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒈𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒘𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒏𝒖𝒎𝒆𝒓𝒐𝒖𝒔 𝒘𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒏 𝒈𝒂𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒐𝒈𝒆𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒘𝒉𝒐 𝒉𝒂𝒅 𝒔𝒆𝒆𝒏 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒉𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒅 𝑱𝒆𝒔𝒖𝒔 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕.
Junia was not an apostle (apostolos noun-masculine)



Saturday, October 15, 2022

Will a man ROB GOD?



Will a man ROB GOD??? 
-by Rory Moore

James 3:1 Do not be many of you teachers, my brethren, knowing that we (teachers) shall receive heavier judgment.

... a good friend has been corresponding with several Texas ministers that teach Christians should "tithe" to the church, i.e., the 10% of members income should go to them or the ministry.

-His questions and challenges have alienated him from people there. “HOW could our pastor be wrong” as they explain tithing to the church?

---But my friend found the church leaders will not answer his questions nor have an honest dialog with him.... Instead they do "damage control" and seek to confirm the error by fraudulently mis-teaching God's Word, or charge non-tithers with selfish withholding.

“Dave” was focusing more on communion yesterday when talking about Gen. 14, then talked about the tithing aspect.
 Melchisedek brought out the bread and wine when meeting with Abram, so Dave said that was like communion. I don’t see how he came to that, but whatever.  I need to add that he did say that we’re not under the law to tithe in the NT now, but he made it a point to say that Abram gave ALL because he had faith that his God would provide. So now the 10% went to ALL.
  <because he questioned them> I do believe that they now understand that tithing is not biblical, but they’re doing damage control to still make people believe they have to give.  For example, in the service that I sent you from 1/31, “T” starts out that we don’t have to tithe, but if a person has a problem giving 10% to God, then I have concern for their soul.

Here is my response to my friends email, and I give him credit for being brave enough to question the pastor and his associate ministers:

Dear bro. ------
Why question a persons soul over 10%?? It is Christ’s nature and fruit of the Holy Spirit to give to others.
Why pick 10% out of the air when that was never taught by the apostles or given to any church in the epistles or Acts?

Abraham tithed?
 Why didn’t Abram record a tithe on his wealth in the context of Genesis 13?
(2) "Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold".

Why didn’t Abraham tithe on the gifts in Gen. 20:14?   And Abimelech took sheep and oxen, and men-servants and women-servants, and gave them unto Abraham, and restored him Sarah his wife.
15   And Abimelech said, Behold, my land is before you. Live where it pleases thee. 16   And ... he said, Behold, I have given <Abraham> a thousand pieces of silver. (silver and gold is money)

If 10% was a universal amount from everyone, all the time, why then did God only ordain agricultural tithing in the law from Sinai?

Was the temple tax a 10% tithe?
Exodus 30:13      This they shall give, every one that passes among them that are numbered, half a shekel after the shekel of the sanctuary: (a shekel is twenty gerahs:) a half shekel shall be the offering of the LORD. 15 The rich shall not give more, and the poor shall not give less than half a shekel, when they give an offering to the LORD, to make an atonement for your souls.

So when they try to impose a 10% “measure”, they cannot go to the apostles who wrote Christ’s commands, they must refer to the covenant that was “disannulled” at the cross (Heb. 7), the “ordinances blotted out” (Col 3, Eph. 2:15).

What they are doing is sowing that 10% law of men and reinforcing the error among people that think the 10% is God's set amount and teaching performance to a duty.. (as we know).

How much better it is to have the Lord direct us in our stewardship over the 100% He owns and what He has allowed us to steward? 
We ourselves have heard the Lord MANY times direct us in giving telling us to whom and how much or what He wanted us to do. In doing so, we have been very blessed.

-Tithing robs the people of this blessing, it robs those that could benefit from our giving, and robs the ministers of truth. It corrupts them into believing the tithes should go to them.

-Tithing robs people of the blessing of giving in secret and robs those that have needs.
-It robs bishops and ministers of the blessing of honest labor and setting an example for other men and often leads to a self-indulgent lifestyle.. It appeals to the greed within the hearts of ministers who grasp the fact that more tithers = more $$$.

-Even Pastors T, D, and J must know and have observed that. We sure did with many ministers in our church association.

FYI: Acts 20.. Paul speaking to the *bishops*:
33 I have desired no one’s silver or gold or clothing.
34 You yourselves know that >>>these hands of mine provided for my needs and the needs of those with me.
35 By all these things, I have shown you that by WORKING IN THIS WAY *WE* (ministers) must help the weak,  and remember the words of the Lord Jesus that he himself said, >>> ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”

Examples of Spirit filled saints not tithing:
Acts 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken wherein they were gathered together; and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
32  And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and soul: and not one [of them] said that aught of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.

Again, Spirit filled saints not tithing..
Acts 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; 45 and they sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all, according as any man had need.
no tithes here either. Acts 4:34 For neither was there among them any that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 and laid them at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto each, according as any one had need.
 If we do not go to God with our questions and seek *Him* for Truth, we will be deceived by our faith in ministers, teachers, church, denomination, priest, pope, politician, and by our own depraved nature.

Why didn't the Levite Barnabbas just tithe?
Acts 4:36 Joseph, who was also called by the apostles Barnabas (which means son of encouragement), a Levite, a native of Cyprus, Act 4:37 sold a field that belonged to him and brought the money and laid it at the apostles' feet. 

Why did Ananias and his wife die for giving a “portion”?
Act 5:1 But a man named Ananias, with his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property, :2 and with his wife's knowledge he kept back for himself some of the proceeds and brought only a part of it and laid it at the apostles' feet. I don't believe they were required to give all the proceeds, but what they did was lie.
-And the apostles did not keep the proceeds for themselves, it was distributed among others.

 Why didn't Paul mention a tithe when collecting for the Saints in Jerusalem?
 1Co 16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints: as I directed the churches of Galatia, so you also are to do.
1Co 16:2 On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come.

You see, it is the nature and fruit of Christ to give.. Not just from finances. We give from what we are given and accumulate.. Yet we are not under compulsion.. We give in love and compassion to real people and real needs, not just a dutiful feeding of a plate being ritually passed.


 The only excuse for tithing a tenth might be under Luke 6:38   give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, shall they give into your bosom. For with what measure you use it shall be measured to you again. But even here Jesus did not suggest 10% as a baseline.

We might compare the doctrine of tithing as taught in churches today with other doctrines taught in churches today using similar reasoning and twisting:
"Transubstantiation" the act of a Catholic priest in magically turning the "host" into the actual body and blood of Christ.
"all are saved, nobody goes to hell",
"ye are gods": men become god-like.
What money tithing has in common with these commonly believed teachings is that all of them sound religiously correct, but can only be taught as such by perverting the scripture.

Tithing UNMASKED Hebrews 7

 



Tithing UNMASKED


 

In one of our many tithe discussions when the money tithe proponents are confronted with truth after truth why they are in error, the last stand some attempt to use is the reasoning "where did the apostles say 'do not tithe' ".

The Truth.

Here is the last place where tithing is mentioned in the Bible:

Heb. 7: 5 And they indeed of the sons of Levi that receive the priest's office have commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren.

7:8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there one, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.

...................

1. The Hebrews context refers to the lawful Old Testament tithes which were not from wages or income, they were agricultural.

2. The Levite priests had a written "commandment" to take tithes from God's people in the Old Covenant.

Now the answer to the "where does it say not to tithe? question.

3. vs.18 there is a **disannulling** >>> of the foregoing commandment <<< because of its weakness and unprofitableness

.................

What was the stated "'foregoing commandment"?

Ans.

It is "the sons of Levi that receive the priest's office have commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren."

So the money tithe doctrine is shown to be false, phony and wrong even when a "straw man" argument is used.

"disanulling": a continuing action of canceling.

disannulled:

DISANNULLED, . Annulled; vacated; made void.

DISANNULLING, Making void; depriving of authority or binding force.

DISANNULMENT, The act of making void; as the disannulment of a law or decree.

 


70 Reasons Tithing is FLAT WRONG new version




70 Reasons Tithing is FLAT WRONG ©
rory moore
-the systematic take-down of a false doctrine.
These are truths about tithing you won't hear in churches that teach money tithes.



I. Tithing and Abraham

1. His tithe was one time tithe from the chief spoils of war, not his own wealth. Gen. 14:20-Heb. 7:4)
2. He gave back the other 90%. Gen. 14:21-23. Tithe teachers seem to miss that detail as they seek to justify money tithes from followers.
3. There is no scripture he ever tithed again from his own wealth, gifts, or from captured war booty.
4. Before he met Melchizedek, Abram was rich in cattle, silver, and gold, but paid no tithes on his own wealth in scripture. Genesis (13:2 )
5. Nowhere did the apostles command churches to tithe like Abraham, as a continuing practice.
6. Abraham lived before Moses who delivered the Old Testament laws. But God's own law never gave Abraham as an example for paying tithes from income, money, or produce.
7. Abraham never made a tithe covenant.  After tithing once to Melchizedek, Abraham did not tithe from the goods and money given to him from Abimelech. Gen. 20:14-16
8. Abraham and God did make a continuing covenant including circumcision. -but not one for tithing. (Gen. 17:10-12)
9. His son Isaac never tithed in scripture.
10. His grandson Jacob pledged to tithe, but the Bible never says he gave them, who he might have given them to, and God never commanded him to do so.



II. Israel and the tithe.
11. The law of Moses defined the ordinance of tithing. (Lev. 27:30, Numbers 16, Deut. 14:23, Mal 3:7. The ordinances were specific in what was to be tithed. The law itself stated nobody was to change, add or take away from what the law itself said, under a strong curse penalty. 
Deut 27:26 Cursed be he that confirms not all the words of this law to do them. ..
12. God defined the tithe in ordinances and commands under law, as farm products!
 Leviticus.27:30-31 And all the tithe of the land,  of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree,  is the Lords: it is holy to the Lord.
 Deuteronomy 14:23   And you will eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose, … the tithe of grainof new wine, of oil, and the first of your herd and flock; ....  and the law was not to be altered.

13. The lawful tithe was FOOD from both farm products and clean animals from inside the holy land of Israel.
Zech 2:12 And the LORD shall inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land, and shall yet choose Jerusalem.) Produce from outside the land of Israel was unclean and unacceptable for tithes.
14. Foreigners, fishermen, wage earners, and tradesmen, had no command to tithe.
(Numbers 18:28 Thus also offer a heave-offering to the LORD of all your tithes, which ye receive of the children of Israel;)
  Non-Jews had no instruction to tithe anything.

15. The tithe was to provide food for the Levite priests, sojourners, widows, orphans.
Deuteronomy 26:12 When you make an end of tithing all the tithe of the increase in the third year,  which is the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Leviteto the sojournerto the fatherless, and to the widowthat they may eat within thy gates,  and be filled.
Numbers 20:21 and to the children of Levi, behold, I have given all the tithe in Israel for an inheritance, in return for their service, the service of the tent of meeting.

16. The (edible) tithe was also brought into the temple storehouse and was eaten and used by the priests, ministers, porters, and singers
The Levite priests were to give and distribute the tithes to others, which was a tithe of the tithe. (1/10th of 1/10th).
 Nehemiah 10:38 And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites,  when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes to the house  of our God, to the chambers, in the treasure-house.

Neh. 13:5  and had prepared a great room, where before they laid the meal-offerings, the frankincense, and the vessels, and the tithes of the grain, the new wine, and the oil,  given by commandment to the Levites, and the singers, and the porters; and the heave-offerings for the priests.

 -do churches who teach tithes pay singers and doorkeepers?

17. The tithe was never for the benefit of one man.
18. The Levite Priests that had the command to receive tithes could not own land.
 Deuteronomy 18:2 And they shall have no inheritance among their brethren:
 The LORD is their inheritance,  as he has spoken to them.

NOTE:  Even if and when a farmer SOLD crops or livestock, he did not pay monetary tithes on that which was sold.  God never required monetary tithes from anyone.




III. The Tithe In Malachi: 







19. In Malachi 3, it was the Levite priests that God rebuked over robbing tithes and offerings.
      Mal. 2:1  O you priests, this commandment is for you.
20. In Malachi the prophet rebukes the priests, the religious leaders, for not  providing for the "the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless...."

21.  The hireling and his wages were not commanded to tithe.

22.  In Malachi 3:7-10, the passage often used to gather church tithes, "ordinances" are referenced, the priests rebuked for not correctly tithing and offering.
(7) From the days of your fathers you have turned away from my ordinances,  and not kept them. Verse 9 states the Levites were "robbing God" in tithes defined in the ordinances!


23. Neither tithes or offerings as commanded and defined by God in the law and were monetary or from income.
Tithes: Lev. 27:30, offerings: Exodus 29.
24. Malachi 3:9 therefore is not a reference to tithing from income.
25. Malachi 3:9 is never quoted in the New Testament to any church or given as an ordinance to the churches as in Acts 15 when the apostles and elders ruled on what law they were or were not to observe.. 












IV. The seed tithe:
26. The "seed tithe" was a yearly and third year tithe. It was seed, not money. Deut. 14:22)
27. The "seed" tithe could be changed "IN TO money", and taken to the feast.
28. The tithe exchanged into money could buy "whatever thy soul desires" - for the tither and his family.
      Deut. 14:26  and thou shall use the money for whatever your soul desires, for cattle, sheep, or for wine, for strong drink, or whatever… you shall eat before the LORD and rejoice, you and your household.
29.  The every "third year" tithe of seed was commanded for the benefit of the Levite, stranger, orphans, and widows, and was not money from income earned.
Deut. 14:28   At the end of every three years you shall bring forth all the tithe of the  increase in the same year,  and lay it up within thy gates
 29   and the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance, and the sojourner, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are within your gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hand.

30. The tithe itself was never defined as money by the Lord, nor were the Old Testament tithes  ever re-defined by an apostle or Jesus as 10% of income paid in money.

V. Tithing in In the New Testament:


31. Jesus affirmed tithing was as defined by God in the law, and was "of the matters of the law". 
Matthew 23:23
32. Jesus did not mention Abraham paying tithes before the law.
33. Jesus and the apostles never said paying a tithe from income was blessed but did say "GIVING" is blessed.
34. Jesus did say He required disavowing ownership of all  we have,
       or we could not be disciples.   Luke 14:33
35. Jesus affirmed to Jews under the law, that they were to keep the law as it was written. Mat. 23:23
36. Jesus affirmed the tithe as it was given in the law, and not as 10% of income.

37. At His death, Jesus delivered the New Covenant through His apostles by the Holy Spirit.  Hebrews 9:17  a testament is of force where there has been death:  for it has no authority while he that made it lives.
       (that is why Jesus affirmed tithing, and Moses laws while he lived)

38. At the cross, Jesus annulled, discharged, abolished, blotted out, and canceled the ordinances of the Old Covenant.
 Eph. 2:15 Col. 2:914, 2Cor 3:14 Heb 8:15–are some of the verses affirming the passing away of the ordinances. There are many more.

39.  The tithe ordinance and command under the law was never changed into a tithe from wages, sales, or paid in money in the New Testament, nor was a church building ever called "the storehouse".

VI. Ministers and Tithes:  

 40. In Hebrews 7, it was pointed out that men here, the Levites, had a command to take tithes from their brethren, "according to the law". Tithes were defined in the Old Covenant Law.
Heb 7:5 And the sons of Levi that receive the priest's office have commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law.


41. There is no New Testament "office" of a priest or pastor, and the “foregoing commandment” was CANCELED. Heb. 7:
18  For there is a dis-annulling (canceling) of the foregoing commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness
42. The “foregoing” tithe commandment in Hebrews 7 was not from income, nor was it money. -it was the lawful tithe that was “commanded” for Levite priests to take from their brethren.
43. The tithes in Hebrews 7 were not transformed into money and set aside
       for New Testament ministers anywhere in the New Testament.
44. The church assembled in Acts 15 to deal with people that were troubling the churches and Christians, "subverting their souls", in that they were teaching Christians to keep Old Testament law, including the tithe ordinance.

45. The apostles and elders stated "they gave no such command" to observe the Old Covenant ordinances which included tithes, and they warned and forbid the legalists from going beyond the apostles teaching.
46. In no fewer than 30 passages in Acts where money, giving, offerings, work, and alms are mentioned, there is not mention of tithing. 

47. In Galatians 1:7 Paul warned of those bringing New Testament Christians back under Old  Testament law, which he called "bondage" in Gal.5:1, and was what he warned about: "which is not another gospel only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ."
: "pervert" means "to twist or change", as in changing the meaning of a word  into something God did not say..
-Such like the agricultural "tithe" was or is from income, or a pastor is the equivalent of a Levite priest..

VII. Giving or Tithing?

48. In none of the New Testament scriptures was "tithe" included in passages regarding collection's, gatheringgiving, ministering, sacrifice, or offering.
49. Those who command and teach tithing from income are perverting the gospel because tithing as defined in God’s law, and tithing 10% from income are not given to any church or saint.
50. God forbid changing, twisting, adding to, or diminishing from the gospel.
51.  No pastor, prophet, apostle, or minister in scripture ever testified of paying or receiving tithes from income.
52.  No prophet, pastor, apostle, or minister has a scriptural command to take tithes from their brethren according to Old Testament law, or New Testament command.
53. No teacher, preacher, pastor, apostle, or prophet has authority to pervert the OT tithe into NT doctrine. -Paul warned in 1Cor 4:6 ... "that you learn  not to go beyond that which is written that none of you be puffed up... against the other"
54. Paul and the other apostles gave us the New Testament commands of the Lord.   There was no command, ordinance, quoting of tithe laws, or reminders to  "pay tithes".  Their words are the Words of God and the commands to Christians.

Jesus said in Matthew 28:20 make disciples, teaching them to observe all  whatever I commanded you ...   
and the gospel story continues into Acts 1: 
..... :1 concerning all that Jesus began both to do and to teach, 
(2)  until the day he was received up, ==> after that he (Jesus) had given commandment  through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen:

Did you catch that?
The "commandment" of Jesus to New Testament saints after the resurrection came through Spirit-filled apostles, who would teach what Jesus wanted us to observe. 




VIII. Then "after that", What did the apostles teach?:




55. The church in Acts continued in what the Holy Ghost filled apostles taught.
      Acts 2:42 And they continued steadfast in the apostles teaching, fellowship, in the breaking of bread and prayers.
56.  The church received the teaching and commands of the Lord through the apostles.  2nd Peter 3:2 that ye should remember the words which were spoken before  by the holy prophets, and the commandments of the Lord and Saviour through your apostles:
57. The church was told to remember their teaching, and they never taught tithing to the church.
58. The church acknowledged the apostle’s writings as Christ’s commandments.
Since the apostles never commanded tithing, it is not a commandment of the Lord.   1Cor 14:37  If any man thinks himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him know that the things which I write to you, are the commandment of the Lord.

59. The churches were expected to continue in the apostles commands and not go beyond that.
 2Thess 3:4 And we are confident in the Lord that you are doing and will continue to do the things we commanded you. NLT

60. The early Jewish church knew what the Lord had commanded we are not to add to His Word,  diminish from it, or pervert the meaning of it.
 Galatians 1:7 which is not another gospel only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Deuteronomy 16:19 you shall not twist justice: you shall not respect persons; nor  take a bribe;  for a bribe blinds the eyes of the wise, and pervert the words of the righteous


Yes, money tithes are twisted judgment and bring “respect of persons” toward those that tithe more than others.

61. Since the commands of the Lord given through the apostles do not include tithing from  income, those who  teach tithing from income are perverting His Word and need to be corrected.
Deuteronomy 12:32 What I command you,  observe to do: you shall not add to, or diminish from it


62. The original church in Acts never mentioned any tithing, rather they "had ALL things common", sharing, and meeting each others need.
Acts 2: 44  And all that believed were together, and had all things common; (45) and they sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all  according as any man had need. <= Does that sound like tithes to you?

We find it strange how churches teach tithing but in the Book of Acts the disciples worked, gave, supplied each other, sold property, and ministered to the needs of others but not once is any form of tithing attached to any of those actions by the NT writers!

63.  NONE of the churches that teach tithing do as they did in Acts 2:44-45.

64. When Tithes and offerings are recorded for charitable contribution tax deductions by every church organizations and ministry, and as such, are reported to the government for a tax deduction, you have your reward.
     Matthew 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your righteousness before men,
     to be seen (observed) of them:  else ye have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.
65. Matthew 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your righteousness before men,
 to be seen (observed) of them: or ye have no reward with your Father in heaven.
The context for "your righteousness was giving alms, not tithes. Alms are merciful and compassionate voluntarily bestowed by the giver, and not by duty to a percentage under law.

65. The tax deduction is a reward from man for reported tithing.
        The reward comes from man and not from God.
        Reported tax-deductible tithing is seen by a church administrator, bank, tax authorities to  whom it is reported, and any official that looks at your tax forms.
2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

IX. What the New Testament DOES say:

66. "GIVE and it shall be given..."
Luke 11:41  But rather give alms of such things as ye have
Acts 20:35   I have showed you all things, how that so laboring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
2 Corinthians 9:7   Every man according as he purposes in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loves a cheerful giver.
Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labor, working with his hands, that he may have to give to him that needs.
Matthew 6:1   Take care not to do your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward
Luke 11:41 But rather give alms of such things as ye have; and, behold, all are clean unto you

67. It is ludicrous that Jesus who took no tithes on earth for 33 years, only to get to heaven and now calls for money tithes. 

68. why the modern church tithe doctrine is FLAT WRONG:
-Proof that Abram who gave only one written tithe to Melchizedek, stated the spoils he captured in war and gave tithes from were not his.
Gen. 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; now he was a priest of God Most High. 19 He blessed him (Abram) and said,

“Blessed be Abram of God Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth;
20 And blessed be God Most High, Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.”
 and he (Abram) gave him (Melchizedek) a tenth of all
.

21 The king of Sodom (Mel.) said to Abram, “Give the people to me and take the goods for yourself.”
===>>> 22 Abram said to the king of Sodom, “I have sworn to the Lord God Most High, possessor of heaven and earth, 
23 that I will not take a thread or a sandal thong OR ANYTHING THAT IS YOURS, for fear you would say, ‘I have made Abram rich..

Can you see that Abram proceeded to give ALL back except what his soldiers had eaten?
24 I will take NOTHING except what the young men have eaten.

69. In the New Testament, Not tithing is never called out as sin, "robbing God", "being stingy/selfish/ or anyone not tithing mentioned.
70. Reason #70 tithing is flat wrong. Tithes to God?Leviticus 27:30 ‘Thus all the tithe of the land, of the seed of the land or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’s; it is holy to the LORD.
Numbers 18:28 So you shall also present an offering to the Lord from your tithes, which you receive from the sons of Israel..
Malachi 3:8 “Will a man ROB GOD?
Yet you are robbing ME!
But you say, ‘How have we robbed You?’
In tithes and offerings........
..............
New Testament thoughtful questions.
Did Jesus receive tithes before or after the cross and after the resurrection???
DID ANY Spirit-filled believer tithe in Acts???

Although no warnings or instructions are given for New Testament tithes, there ARE warnings and instructions regarding perverting scripture, extortioners, and taking oversight for "filthy lucre".

The sum of the matter is
:
Money tithing is *false doctrine* and abuse of the people that trust their "leaders". 

Words used such as “give”, “alms”, “gatherings”, and “collections” are never defined as a 10% tithe in the New Testament. Therefore it is “perverting the gospel” to insert someone’s idea or tithe definition into any of the text’s where those words are used

There is not one single instruction to any church or saint under New Covenant scripture, to pay a tithe to anyone.