Love is Perfected in Brokeness

  

6-24-13 to Rory
" My love is perfected in your brokeness, it is there I am near and you are aware of My Presence in your life.

It is there my love, the love I commanded, is produced and brought forth in your Spirit. It is there you will find Me and My nature and fruit come forth in you.

It is my fruitful love, it is my pure love, it is the love of My children that flows through My Word.
In brokenness and weakness are you strengthened in Me.

Brokenness is the opposite of self, the works of self, the desires of self, for it is self-less.
Remember I said I would refine with a refiners fire and purge with hyssop?

Who can restrain that which I will do in those that I love?

Who is like me?
Why would you let any other stand for me?
I am your Father.

Yet I desire maturity in my children but so many enjoy the pleasures of childhood.
You will see and hear things that will cause men’s hearts to fail, but I am sending these to drive you into my refuge and you are not to walk in fear.

I will mature My sons and daughters, and deliver them from their love of world and the things of the world. "

"there are those among My children that love strife and debate.

I am not among them when they do. That which is rooted in pride I hate, and is of the world.

Among my children it should not be so, I do not accuse you, nor do I accuse them through you. I will not justify those that live in strife and debate, and My love is not among those that practice such.

I tell you to turn away from such and do not give place to that in your heart for it defiles your spirit. 'From such turn away' is one of My commandments to the saints.
My power is manifested in meekness and love."

... holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power (of My love) therefore from these also turn away." 2Tim 3:5

Oct 7 2018 Polluted waters Vision

 

Oct 7 2018   Polluted waters night vision
-rory moore

I saw a river of clean water flowing from a very high place off in the distance, as flowing out from an invisible mountain.

I saw it begin clean and pure but by the time it got to where I was it was mingled with sewage water, but the sewage water had been filtered and cleaned also, however it still tainted the pure water of the river.

The Lord gave the meaning.

The river was God's pure Word, living waters, flowing from on high for 2000 years, from the mountain of His kingdom.

But man had polluted it and the sewage water, even though treated and cleaned, had tainted the Word. 
People seek to be cleansed by God’s word at church,but yet the water of the word has been tainted by man, the works of the flesh. It goes through man but comes out sewage).

The Word has been wrestled with, added to, diminished,  from by man's precepts and carnal understanding.

And when we ourselves engage in strife, debate, malice, despising people while standing in the water of the Word, then we are polluting it.

The river was God's pure Spirit and Word, living waters, flowing from on high for 2000 years, from the mountain of Christ's kingdom, Jerusalem above. 

But man had polluted it and the sewage water, even though treated and cleaned, men had tainted the Word.

People seek to be cleansed by God’s word at church,
but the water of the word has been tainted by man, especially pastors, and the works of the flesh.  

It goes through man but comes out sewage.

The Word has been wrestled with, added to, diminished,  from by man's precepts and carnal understanding.

And when we ourselves engage in strife, debate, malice, despising people while standing in the water of the Word, then we are polluting it.

We must read it and follow it in faith, they way it was given through those that wrote it

-rory

Of Ghosts and Spirits, Angels and Resurrected Body

 Of Ghosts and spirits.

A scripture perspective on the spirit (aka ghost), the part of us bears the image of the physical. An image is a "copy" of the original.

The scriptures say we are body, soul, AND spirit.

A saved person's spirit returns to God.

(at the end of this post I mention "familiar spirits", which are lying and deceiving spirits that appear or imitate someone as a "ghost", or "alien", demons, and other spirit manifestations that we have authority over through Christ..).

There are likewise angels of God given as protection and messengers. We can also "test the spirits to know whether they be of God" John wrote.. and again,

Hebrews 1:14

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to do service for the sake of them that shall inherit salvation?

Paul said their is a "natural body" (physical), and there is a spiritual body. 1Cor 15. 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

it is raised a spiritual body.

:44 If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body"

𝐒𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐆𝐨𝐝 𝐇𝐢𝐦𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐟 𝐢𝐬 𝐋𝐈𝐅𝐄, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐇𝐞 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐭, 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐨𝐧, 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐭 𝐥𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐜𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐞𝐱𝐢𝐬𝐭.

At the resurrection, the spirit and an eternal physical body are united. As Jesus exemplified when His spirit returned into his dead body and *resurrected* into a new, immortal body!! \o/ Praise to God.

𝐉𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐬' 𝐧𝐞𝐰 resurrected 𝐛𝐨𝐝𝐲 𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐠𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐰𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐬, 𝐚𝐩𝐩𝐞𝐚𝐫, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐝𝐢𝐬𝐚𝐩𝐩𝐞𝐚𝐫, 𝐲𝐞𝐭 𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐞𝐚𝐭 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐛𝐞 𝐭𝐨𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐓𝐡𝐨𝐦𝐚𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐬..

Luke 20:36

for neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

The lost souls in the 2nd resurrection and they combined are the corporate "body of death" that go into the lake of fire for destruction.

Death and destruction of the natural body is not the cessation of existence, for the lost without Christ it is an on-going destruction where the fire is not quenched. The spirit-soul separate from the physical body.

Some of us that experienced that in a trauma and others that died and came back can testify of that.

".... 𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒓𝒂𝒊𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝒂 𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚.

𝑰𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂 𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐 𝒂 𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚"

Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought the signs in his sight, wherewith he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast and them that worshipped his image: they two were

cast alive into the lake of fire that burns with brimstone:

"𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒓𝒂𝒊𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝒂 𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚. 𝑰𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂 𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐 𝒂 𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚"

Rev. 20:4-6

Rev. 20:14 And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, even the lake of fire.

15 And if any was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire.

Note:

as with the harlot, the body of Christ, the "wheat", the beast, Israel, ALL are "corporate" bodies <bundles> of people.

aka "bundles".

Matthew 13:30

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares,

and bind them in *bundles* to burn them;

but gather the wheat into my barn.

"𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒓𝒂𝒊𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝒂 𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚. 𝑰𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂 𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐 𝒂 𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚"

ref:

Isaiah 66:24

And they shall go forth, and look upon the dead bodies of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Mark 9:48

where their worm dies not, and the fire is not quenched.

"𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒓𝒂𝒊𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝒂 𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚. 𝑰𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂 𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐 𝒂 𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚"

Notice the dead go into fire WITH two hands...

Mark 9:43

And if thy hand cause thee to stumble, cut it off: it is good for thee to enter into life maimed, rather

than having thy two hands to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire.

"𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒓𝒂𝒊𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝒂 𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚. 𝑰𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂 𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐 𝒂 𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚"

Here is another veiled witness to the "beast", aka an un-regenerated man..

Ecclesiastes 3:21

Who knows the spirit of man, whether it goes upward, and the spirit of the beast, whether it goes downward into the earth?

"into the earth" is also witnessed by words like "pit", "ABYSS" "under the earth, "lower parts of the earth", etc.

Korah and company were swallowed up "alive" and taken down into the lower parts of the earth.

Samuel came up from there also.

"𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒓𝒂𝒊𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝒂 𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚. 𝑰𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂 𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐 𝒂 𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚"

Jesus went there while his body was in the tomb and he led the redeemed saints UP to God, the first fruits wave offering by him as "high Priest".

*"familiar spirits":

These are the ghosts, aliens, demons, orbs, and other manifestations of fallen spirits that interface with our physical world.

Angels:

The same is true of angels which are spirit-beings and look like men. "some have entertained angels unaware" and they are sent as messengers and have authority to watch over the children of God.

Hebrews 1:14

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to do service for the sake of them that shall inherit salvation?

Some will disagree with this, I know the arguments. For others the Holy Spirit will witness what is truth. God bless you to receive it.

Hearing The Lord Saying to You and Me

 Hearing The Voice of the Father.

Dec. 3, 2022

I have been holding this inspired word from the Lord for the timing and had a witness from another prophet to release it..

Note:

Prophecy is not always predictive, it is often revelatory and inspired to give comfort, encouragement, and faith.

That being said, I want to bless you with what has been given to me to share with you first, before I post it. I think you will be blessed and it you want to share it that is fine with me and the Lord that gave it.

..............

"As I speak to my people through my words, they learn of Me by the scriptures.

But as I speak individually to each one of you uniquely by my Spirit, it is because I have made each of you uniquely.

When I speak to you individually as your Father, it is because I know you and I know you better than you know you.

I know your past, present, and future in the now moment. I knew the choices you make before you made them, and their consequences, whether of My Will or not.

I made you each different and unique and I despise the religion that seeks to conform you to them instead of conforming you to Jesus.

I made your character and thought patterns and gave you the choice of which are good and which are to be rejected.

All that is in the world, the voices of media, religion, and opinions seek to drown out MY Word and My Voice.

I know them that oppose you and as I love you, I love them.

Your adversary is their adversary.

He seeks to devour you and them and he does it through words.

In order to live in the time remaining, the need to discern what voice you are hearing will save you and others from harm and destruction.

Satan is a wizard and his voices go throughout the world and fill the air and space.

All that is of this world is darkness and deception.

I am speaking to My children but many do not listen, instead they listen to other voices and by them they are deceived.

MY WORD will judge them that turn you away from what My Spirit says.

What I give you is life and Spirit, and My Spirit produces the fruits I desire in your life."

1 God Series Isaiah 9:6

 1 God Isa 9:6

For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. (NASB95)

This familiar verse of scripture, a prophecy, is one that many use to believe that Jesus is Almighty God the Father from Isaiah 9:6,
I was one of them. Let's revisit that verse in light of the words in other passages. 

1. "God" (El Gibbor) in that verse is a word also applied to men, judges, rulers, and magistrates.
2. The "son given" as Jesus Christ is a man. The Messiah, God's servant.
Isaiah 53 makes this abundantly clear.

3.  "God" in Isa. 9:6 is a word also applied to men, rulers, magistrates, and judges. See the link.

4. The "everlasting father" is fulfilled when Jesus became the "seed" that was planted in the earth (death) and raised to become the "last Adam". -a father sows seed to produce children.

5. When Jesus was preached after His disciples were Spirit-filled, we must look at what they said who Jesus is to Jews, gentiles, rulers, pagans..
They never preached Isaiah 9:6 meant God became a man.
They did preach Isaiah 53 and Psalm 110
A Psalm of David.
110 The LORD says to my Lord:
“Sit at My right hand
Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”

We have 100% assurance "THE LORD" is the Father and God of Jesus Christ. John 17:3.
John 20:17
but go to My brethren and say to them,
‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’”

Isa 9:6 is prophecy. Prophecy must be fulfilled. 
Let's itemize the prophecy and see when EACH PORTION was fulfilled. Lengthy but worth the read!

Isaiah 9:6 KJV  For to us a child is "BORN", (prophecy)
fulfillment:
Luke 2:7  And she brought forth her first "BORN" son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

- So we know this child is not the Father because GOD the Father is not born. The Father is eternal.

to us a son is "GIVEN": (prophecy)|
- fulfillment
John 3:16   For God so loved the world, that he "GAVE" his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

- the Father did not become his only begotten son. The Father GAVE his Son....

and the "GOVERNMENT" shall be upon his shoulder (prophecy)
- fulfillment
John 5:22  For the Father judges no man, but has committed ALL JUDGMENT (government) unto the Son

- the Father is governing through the Son!  How is that? because the Father GAVE him that rule.

As we continue with this prophecy to fulfillment we MUST understand that "NAME" in this prophecy (Isa 9:6) means reputation, fame, and glory. Let's keep reading...

(Prophecy) and his NAME (reputation, fame) shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

- Let's itemize each "NAME" called

WONDERFUL- wonder, marvel wonder (extraordinary, hard to understand thing)
- fulfillment
Jesus is wonderful.
Matthew 21:15 KJV And when the chief priests and scribes saw the WONDERFUL things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the Son of David; they were sore displeased.

COUNSELLOR- to advise, consult, give counsel, counsel, purpose, devise, plan
- fulfillment
John 4:25-26 KJV   The woman said to him, I know that Messiah comes, who is called Christ: when he is come, he will TELL US ALL. Jesus said to her, I that speak to thee am he.

THE MIGHTY GOD- strong, mighty (adjective) strong man, brave man, mighty man (noun masculine) god, god-like one, mighty one mighty men, men of rank, mighty heroes
- fulfillment
Hebrews 1:8-9 KJV  But to the Son he says, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:
a scepter of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, has anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

- Let's note that when God the Father referred to "the son given", The LORD did so in the same manner that other MEN were called gods. How so?  Let's keep reading...
Exodus 7:1 Then the Lord said to Moses, “See, I make you <Moses>  God to Pharaoh

Isaiah 41:23 Declare the things that are going to come afterward, That we may know that you are gods;
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

THE EVERLASTING FATHER- perpetuity, for ever, continuing future. Father of an individual of God as father of his people head or founder of a household, group, family, or clan
- fulfillment
John 5:18, 22-23 KJV   Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself EQUAL WITH GOD. For the Father judges no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honor the Son, EVEN AS they honor the Father. He that honored not the Son honored not the Father which hath sent him.

- We point out that No N.T. scripture EVER has anyone calling Jesus the everlasting Father.

THE PRINCE OF PEACE- prince, ruler, leader, chief, chieftain, official, captain of completeness, soundness, welfare, peace

- fulfillment
Hebrews 12:2 KJV  Looking unto Jesus the AUTHOR (i.e. the chief leader, prince) and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God

 The gods of Psalm 82 are nothing more than men who, by God’s sovereign design, are chosen to rule over other men. In fact, the word “Elohim,” used in verse six, is often translated “judges” in the Old Testament. An example of this can be found in Exodus 21:6 where it reads, “Then his master shall bring him to the judges [Elohim] …” 

Another example is Exodus 22:8 which reads, “If the thief is not found, then the master of the house shall be brought to the judges …” Again, the Hebrew Elohim is used.

This is why Jesus is called Elohim/God because God has given him authority to judge in...

John 5:23  Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son

God gave His Son Yeshua/Jesus the throne of his Father David to rule over Israel.

Luke 1:31-33
And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name Jesus. 32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the most High; and the LORD God will give Him the throne of His father David. 33 And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom, there will be no end.”

Summary:
 If you are believing Jesus is Almighty God the Father from Isa. 9:6:

1. "God" in that verse is a word also applied to men, judges, rulers, and magistrates.
2. The "son given" as Jesus Christ is a man. The Messiah, God's servant.
Isaiah 53 makes this abundantly clear.
3. The "everlasting father" is fulfilled when Jesus became the "seed" that was planted in the earth (death) and raised to become the "last Adam". -a father sows seed to produce children. His life was the seed.
4. When Jesus was preached after His disciples were Spirit-filled, we must look at what they said who Jesus is to Jews, gentiles, rulers, pagans..
They never preached Isaiah 9:6
They did preach Isaiah 53 and Psalm 110
 The LORD (Yehovah) says to my Lord (the Christ):
“Sit at My right hand  until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”

We have 100% assurance "THE LORD" is the Father and God of Jesus Christ.
John 17:3. Jesus calls his God "the ONLY TRUE GOD".
John 20:17 Jesus said:  ‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’”
Rev. 1: from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him that loves us, and loosed us from our sins by his blood;
6  and he made us a kingdom of priests ==>>> to his God and Father; <===  

 Almighty God or " MIGHTY GOD"- defined: strong, mighty (adjective) strong man, brave man, mighty man (noun masculine) god, god-like one, mighty one mighty men, men of rank, mighty heroes
- fulfillment
Hebrews 1:8-9 KJV  But to the Son he says, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:
a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, has anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

- Let's note that when God the Father referred to the future son given, He did so in the same manner that other MEN were called gods. 
How so?  

Exodus 7:1 Then the Lord said to Moses, “See, I make you <Moses>  God to Pharaoh
Isaiah 41:23 Declare the things that are going to come afterward, That we may know that you are gods;
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

 The gods of Psalm 82 are nothing more than men who, by God’s sovereign design, are chosen to rule over other men. In fact, the word “Elohim,” used in verse six, is often translated “judges” in the Old Testament. 

An example of this can be found in Exodus 21:6 where it reads, “Then his master shall bring him to the judges [Elohim] …” 

Another example is Exodus 22:8 which reads, “If the thief is not found, then the master of the house shall be brought to the judges …” Again, the Hebrew Elohim is used.

This is why Jesus is called Elohim/God because God has given him authority to judge.

John 5:23  Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son

Using Isaiah 9:6  in proving "Jesus is God" does not pass the test. 

 

Proverbs 7, and we thought it was only a morality story..

 

A Proverb and a revelation
Proverbs 7, and we thought it was only a morality story..
How "naive" we were!

I looked at some of the key words and *wow*.
𝙉𝙖𝙞𝙫𝙚:
"𝙩𝙤𝙤 𝙬𝙞𝙡𝙡𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙤 𝙗𝙚𝙡𝙞𝙚𝙫𝙚 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙨𝙤𝙢𝙚𝙤𝙣𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙚𝙡𝙡𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙩𝙧𝙪𝙩𝙝,"

The elder speaks:
Prov. 7:6 For at the window of my *house (*His House is holy)

I (wisdom) looked out through my lattice, (God's Word)
7 And I saw among the 𝙉𝙖𝙞𝙫𝙚,
And discerned among the youths
A young man lacking sense, (unawares-lacking understanding)

8 Passing through the street near her corner (tower. steeple);
𝑨𝒏𝒅 𝒉𝒆 𝒕𝒂𝒌𝒆𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 *𝒘𝒂𝒚 𝒕𝒐 𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒔𝒆,
(𝙘𝙤𝙪𝙧𝙨𝙚 𝙤𝙛 𝙡𝙞𝙛𝙚-𝙢𝙤𝙙𝙚 𝙤𝙛 𝙖𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣)
(𝑯𝒆𝒓 𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒔𝒆: temple-prison, a place of worship that entraps)

9 In the twilight, 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒏𝒊𝒏𝒈,
(he does not have full "Light", the personal revelation of scripture and the Spirit of God)

In the middle 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒏𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒅𝒂𝒓𝒌𝒏𝒆𝒔𝒔.
(the "evening" leads him to the darkness, no longer in the Light of the gospel)

10 And behold, 𝒂 𝒘𝒐𝒎𝒂𝒏 comes to meet him,
𝑫𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝒂𝒔 𝒂 𝒉𝒂𝒓𝒍𝒐𝒕 and cunning of heart.
11 She is boisterous and rebellious,
Her feet do not remain at home;
("𝘀𝗵𝗲" 𝗶𝘀 𝗿𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝗻 𝗥𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝟭𝟳 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝟭𝟴 𝗮𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗴𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁 𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗹𝗼𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗠𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘆 𝗕𝗮𝗯𝘆𝗹𝗼𝗻. 𝗦𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗮 𝗵𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗹𝘀. 𝗦𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗼𝗿𝗽𝗼𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗵 *𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺*)

12 𝙎𝙝𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙣𝙤𝙬 𝙞𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙩𝙧𝙚𝙚𝙩𝙨, 𝙣𝙤𝙬 𝙞𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙦𝙪𝙖𝙧𝙚𝙨,
And lurks by every corner.
( "she" is easy to find..

13 So she seizes him and kisses him
And with a brazen face she says to him:
14 “I was due to offer peace offerings; Today I have paid my vows.
15 “Therefore I have come out to meet you,
To seek your presence earnestly, and I have found you.
( 𝒔𝒉𝒆 𝒄𝒐𝒏𝒇𝒆𝒔𝒔𝒆𝒔 𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒓𝒆𝒍𝒊𝒈𝒊𝒐𝒖𝒔 𝒘𝒂𝒚, "𝒑𝒂𝒊𝒅" 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒑𝒆𝒂𝒄𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒏𝒐𝒘 𝒔𝒆𝒆𝒌𝒔 𝒕𝒐 "𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒄𝒉 𝒐𝒖𝒕" 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒔𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒔..)

16 “I have spread my couch 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗰𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀,
𝑾𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒄𝒐𝒍𝒐𝒓𝒆𝒅 𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒆𝒏𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝑬𝒈𝒚𝒑𝒕.
17 “I have sprinkled my bed
With myrrh, aloes and cinnamon.

18 “Come, let us drink our fill of love until morning;
Let us delight ourselves with caresses.
(𝙝𝙚𝙧 𝙥𝙡𝙖𝙘𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙢𝙖𝙙𝙚 𝙗𝙚𝙖𝙪𝙩𝙞𝙛𝙪𝙡, 𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙛𝙤𝙧𝙩𝙖𝙗𝙡𝙚, 𝙚𝙣𝙟𝙤𝙮𝙖𝙗𝙡𝙚, 𝙬𝙤𝙧𝙡𝙙𝙡𝙮 (𝙀𝙜𝙮𝙥𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙩𝙮𝙥𝙚) 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙨𝙝𝙚 𝙘𝙡𝙖𝙞𝙢𝙨 𝙝𝙚𝙧 𝙧𝙚𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙥𝙡𝙖𝙘𝙚 "𝙘𝙤𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙞𝙣𝙜𝙨" 𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙗𝙚𝙣𝙚𝙛𝙞𝙩. 𝙖𝙠𝙖 𝙝𝙚𝙧 𝙩𝙚𝙖𝙘𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙜𝙨 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙗𝙚𝙡𝙞𝙚𝙛𝙨. 𝙃𝙚𝙧 𝙝𝙤𝙪𝙨𝙚 𝙖𝙥𝙥𝙚𝙖𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙛𝙡𝙚𝙨𝙝.)

19 “For 𝒎𝒚 𝒉𝒖𝒔𝒃𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒊𝒔 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒂𝒕 𝒉𝒐𝒎𝒆,
𝑯𝒆 𝒉𝒂𝒔 𝒈𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒐𝒏 𝒂 𝒍𝒐𝒏𝒈 𝒋𝒐𝒖𝒓𝒏𝒆𝒚;
(she is the unfaithful bride that claims Christ as her own)

20 He has taken a bag of money with him,
At the full moon he will come home.”
(𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕 𝒂𝒔𝒄𝒆𝒏𝒅𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑭𝒂𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒉𝒂𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒓𝒊𝒄𝒉𝒆𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒈𝒐𝒔𝒑𝒆𝒍 𝒕𝒐 𝒃𝒆 𝒇𝒓𝒆𝒆𝒍𝒚 𝒈𝒊𝒗𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒐 𝑯𝒊𝒔 𝒃𝒆𝒍𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒅)

21 With her many persuasions she entices him;
With her flattering lips she seduces him.
(come to our church...")

22 Suddenly he follows her
As an ox goes to the slaughter,
Or as one in fetters to the discipline of a fool,

23 Until 𝒂𝒏 𝒂𝒓𝒓𝒐𝒘 𝒑𝒊𝒆𝒓𝒄𝒆𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒓𝒐𝒖𝒈𝒉 𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒍𝒊𝒗𝒆𝒓;
As a bird hastens to the snare,
So he does not know that 𝙞𝙩 𝙬𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙘𝙤𝙨𝙩 𝙝𝙞𝙢 𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙡𝙞𝙛𝙚.
(𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒍𝒊𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒄𝒍𝒆𝒂𝒏s 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒃𝒍𝒐𝒐𝒅.
𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝒂𝒓𝒓𝒐𝒘 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒅 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕.
𝑰𝒕 𝒑𝒊𝒆𝒓𝒄𝒆𝒔 𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒍𝒊𝒗𝒆𝒓, 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒉𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒕 𝒐𝒓 𝒂𝒏𝒐𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚 𝒑𝒂𝒓𝒕!)

24 Now therefore, my sons, listen to me, (the wisdom of the elder)
And pay attention to the words of my mouth.

25 Do not let your heart turn aside to her ways,
Do not stray into her paths.

26 𝑭𝒐𝒓 *𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒚* 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒗𝒊𝒄𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒔 𝒔𝒉𝒆 𝒉𝒂𝒔 𝒄𝒂𝒔𝒕 𝒅𝒐𝒘𝒏,
("many". Many shall come in His name and deceive many.
And numerous are all her slain.

27 𝑯𝒆𝒓 𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒔𝒆 is the way to Sheol,
Descending to the chambers of death.

(her "house-prison" is a temple, the way is the Broad way,
Sheol is the place of the lost dead, aka hell.
Some will say grave, but that is another subject.

Some of us were the "naive" young man, I would say the majority.
I was one. I got my ministerial credentials in one of her houses.

Some of us overcame her, she returns for mention in Revelation 2, and is called "Jezebel". Later in Revelation 17 and 18 she is revealed as "Mystery Babylon the Great"..

Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots, becomes the church system with its' confusion of doctrines, buildings, organizations, ministries, all seductively calling people to her "house" while all claim Christ as husband.

Hence the holy Spirit says "Come out of her *my* people..."
-Rev. 18:4

12? How Many Apostles Were There?

 

How Many Apostles Were There?
You may be surprised at what a careful examination of God's Word tells us.
-rory moore

Acts 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments to the apostles whom he had chosen:

 Acts 1:13
And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphæus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.

At this point, there are 11 named as apostles,

Acts 1: 13  And when they were come in, they went up into the upper chamber, where they were abiding; both Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James.

#12 Matthias
Acts 1:26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. 

 Acts 13:2 While they were serving the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set Barnabas and Saul apart for Me for the work to which I have called them.” 
³ Then, when they had fasted, prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.  ⁴ So, being sent out by the Holy Spirit they went.

 Acts 14:  1) And it came to pass in Iconium, that they went both together (Paul and Barnabbas) into the synagogue of the Jews, and so spoke, that a great multitude both of the Jews and also of the Greeks believed.

2)  But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles, and made their minds evil affected against the brethren. 3)  Long time therefore abode they speaking boldly in the Lord, which gave testimony unto the word of his grace, and granted signs and wonders to be done by their hands.

4)  But the multitude of the city was divided: and part held with the Jews, and part with the apostles. (note the plural, named in vs 1)

Paul, the 13th,  Add Barnabbas who becomes the 14th.

And from 1Thessalonians1:1  Paul, and Silvanus, and Timothy, to the church of the Thessalonians in God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace.

9)   For ye remember, brethren, our labor and travail: working night and day, that we might not burden any of you, we preached to you the gospel of God.
2 Peter 3:2 that you should remember the words spoken beforehand by the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior spoken by your apostles.

ch. 2:4)    but even as we have been approved of God to be entrusted with the gospel, so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God who prove our hearts.

5)    For neither at any time were we found using words of flattery, as ye know, nor a cloak of covetousness, God is witness;

6)    nor seeking glory of men, neither from you nor from others, when we might have claimed authority as apostles  (plural) of Christ.

58 plurals "we" "our" "us", used with the context of “apostles” in 1Thess.

Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy in 2Thessalonians:3

⁶ Now we command you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother or sister who leads a disorderly life and not one in accordance with the tradition which you received from us. 
⁷ For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example, because we did not act in an undisciplined way among you, ⁸ nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with labor and hardship we working night and day so that we would not be a burden to any of you; ⁹ not because we do not have the right to this, but in order to offer ourselves as a role model for you, so that you would follow our example. 
¹⁰ For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order:
 if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either. 
¹¹ For we hear that some among you are leading an undisciplined life, doing no work at all, but acting like busybodies. 
¹² Now we command and exhort such persons in the Lord Jesus Christ to work peacefully and eat their own bread.
 ¹³ But as for you, brothers and sisters, do not grow weary of doing good.

In 2 Thessalonians chapter 3, there are 14 plurals used in context of the apostles ministry. And 24 total. “—because our testimony to you was believed.”

 in 1Thess. 2:6 “as apostles…” : there are a total of 58 plural references from them, Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy, as “apostles”, from Paul the writer.

 I see solid evidence of 17 apostles up through these passages, perhaps there are others such as Apollos?

If Silas and Silvanus are two separate individuals (there is some uncertainty they are the same man), we are at 20 apostles.

1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

1 Corinthians 3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;

1 Cor 4:6  And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written

 Luke, #21 an apostle. Writer of Acts.

Epaphroditus #22
Philippians 2:25 But I thought it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother and fellow worker and fellow soldier, who is also your *messenger and minister..

*The translators should have said “apostle” here because the Greek word is “apostolos”.

"apostolos":
Definition: a delegate, messenger, one sent forth with orders
specifically applied to the twelve apostles of Christ
in a broader sense applied to other eminent Christian teachers
of Barnabas of Timothy and Silvanus

Our last point is this, in the New Testament there is not a single, Titled Apostle, Pastor, Teacher, Prophet, or Evangelist mentioned. No "Pastor" Bill, no "Apostle" Jones, no "Prophet" Smith.  Those are titles men take to themselves to impress and control others, or feed their own ambitions.

The Nicolaitane (CLERGY-Laity) Error Jesus Hates (was not Santa Claus)

Overcoming The End-Time Nicolaitanes

-by Rory Moore

"neither as lords over God's heritage" -1Peter 3
The time has arrived in saving people from the CLERGY over the LAITY Church SYSTEM.

Disclaimer: 
At times it may sound as if I am anti-pastor. This is not so. We love the pastors whom God has graciously put in our lives. The truth is aimed at the harlot system and her institutions,
and NOT at any individual that is trapped by the error of the Nicolaitanes.

• "But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitanes".
  VERY few Christians "hate" this, and if one cannot recognize the Nicolaitane error then one cannot "hate it"  (i.e., despise it).
• We do not "hate" the people snared in the Nicolaitane error. Jesus calls us to love when disagree. 

Revelation 2: (To the church at Ephesus)
6   But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate;
15 So you also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes,     which I hate.
16 Repent; or else I will come to you quickly, and will fight against them (the Nicolaitanes) with the sword of my mouth.

You cannot repent of this unless you know what it is and why Jesus hates it!

Here is truth:
Christ detests the formal, organized  (usually 501c3 incorporated) church government found in almost every church and denomination.  The Clergy over laity churches because it puts man in the place of God.

"Nicolaitane" is from two Greek words "Nike" and "Laos"

The Greek word "nike" means "to conquer"…to dominate, intimidate, CONTROL, rule over, even to manipulate.

It means exercising carnal control. It means ruling by position, dominion, subjugation, and taking authority by these means. 

The word "laos" means "the people", that is, the laity.
Hence,  "nike-laity", i.e. "Nico-laitane" error.

Thus we have by definition the deeds and teaching of those who conquer, dominate, manipulate, and "lead" the laity, or the people.

Why does Jesus "HATE" their deeds and doctrines?

Simply put, it is because it puts men in the place of God, seating them in the temple of God.
-whether they be called the church board, Elder, Senior Pastor, priest, Pope, Bishop, or some other ecclesiastical title.

 And it virtually guarantees the majority of God's people never mature into faith and their own ministry as Jesus.

Denominational, factious, competitive Christianity has given the church a hierarchical, professionalized, titled, system of church clergy organizing offering "strange fire". 

Now Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took their respective firepans, and after putting fire in them, placed incense on it and offered strange fire before the Lord, which He had not commanded them.

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o   WHY is no Senior Pastor, Youth Leader, Choir Director, pope, cardinal, Archbishop, priest, monsignor, or denominational structure found in scripture?

o   WHY no scripture giving any Pastor-Priest sole ruler-ship, headship, or sole authority over an assembly of God's people?

o   WHY were no formal titles or labels attached to any New Testament disciples including the obvious ones like the apostles?

o   WHY are no church boards, assistant pastors, co-pastors, associate pastors, or senior church officials in scripture?

The simple truth is because Jesus taught His disciples not to do those things.

Overcoming the Nicolaitane error and deeds

In Revelation 2, the people of God who have eyes and ears to overcome are told:
15-17: So have you also some that hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans in like manner.
 Repent therefore;
or else I come to you quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of my mouth.
 He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
 To him that overcomes will I give of *the hidden manna....

Serious words I never heard in church, never discussed or considered. Mysterious.
Yet strong admonitions are given in scripture in regard to what Jesus said was the relationship among the brethren and how actual church should function (like family and not am institution).

What Peter said in 1Peter 5:

1 The elders among you I exhort, who am a fellow-elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, who am also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:

2 Tend the flock of God which is among you, exercising the oversight, not of constraint, but willingly, according to the will of God; nor yet for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;

3 neither as lording it over the charge allotted to you, but making yourselves examples to the flock.

In this passage, note elderS (plural) are among us, Peter includes himself as an elder, and no mention of "pastors".

Why not?
Connect the dots friends.
-God gave a five headship ministries to oversee and serve God's people. Apostles, prophets, evangelists, teachers, pastors. Co-equal brethren, elders, men. (my post regarding qualifications to oversee)

-neither ...  means  "  not even, no, not once".

-as lording: means: "to lord against, that is, control, subjugate: - exercise dominion over (lordship), be lord over, overcome."

Yet this is exactly what the Nicolaitane error does and Peter said not even once was the flock to be carnally subjugated, controlled, or have someone exercise dominion over.

As the Christian sees the truth of scripture, he will need to simply repent and realign his thinking in terms of what the New Testament ministry truly is, not from what we have seen all around us.

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ;

The ministry is given to serve, edify, and steward the faith. Those who minister are to comfort, correct, and contend for the faith.
The faith they are to contend for is THE faith as it is written (not the fragmented, conflicted, sectarian mish-mash of faith found in the church world).

Friends, Jesus gave, taught, and lived THE faith to His disciples, who in turn gave the same gospel and the same faith to the churches they established. 

Many pastors compare their ministry to Moses who led the people of God to the "Promised Land" with the idea that there must be a leader-centered administration of a church body.
But that is not a model found in the New Testament because we have Christ and the Holy Spirit given to direct an assembly if they are Spirit-filled and Spirit led. Most churches simply fall back into the traditions of men in their structure.

And the 501c3 Incorporation so common to church groups legally places Caesar above Christ.

You see, when the Nicolaitanes imposed their error and deeds upon the church, the pastor-priest became the preeminent personage.
T'was never meant to be and there is not one positive New Testament example of that.

Who gave the pastor-priest preeminence over the rest of the five-fold ministry and the false hierarchial system of "accountability"?

It was the work of the Nicolaitane clergy. 
As many of us finally realize, this is the most common form of church government around us. .

How do you "overcome" the clergy-laity Nicolaitanes?

Love them but Renounce and resign from all official memberships.
Ask God to take their error and deeds out of your heart.
Then pray to assemble with others.

If these steps are not done, or the deeds and error of the Nicolaitanes not spoken out in the church, then excuses, justifications, and having faith with "respect of persons" (see James 2:1) will keep you within the body of the harlot church system.  -and the cycle of church to church will continue.

James 2:1 NCV

My dear brothers and sisters, as believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ,
never think some people are more important than others.

*the hidden manna....: is the Truth revealed by the Holy Spirit. The "hidden manna" revelation of what the Nicolaitane deeds and error in this post was revealed to me by the Holy Spirit.

My prayer is others will see this and take it to heart. People will rise or fall with the Clergy church system. They will  walk in Light or darkness, be deceived or be delivered. 


Study References:
James 2:1
Matthew 23
Matthew 20: 21-27
1 Peter 5:1-5
Revelation 2:1-20
Acts 20:17-35