Time to change our view.
A man asked:
“QUESTION to you anti-christ's here who say Thomas is not directing "my
God" to him (Jesus).
Why is it that all the scriptures of the gospels, regarding the
apostles walking with Jesus, they all
already called him "Lord"?
But now that Thomas is saying "My Lord and my God", so that Jesus is saying "you have seen me and have believed" Believed
what? That he lives?
Thomas was the LAST of the apostles to see Jesus alive
again.
So.... It wasn't him seeing Jesus as his "Lord"/"Master". What was it that Thomas saw?
Could it be something similar <the revelation> to when Peter said "you are
the Christ the son of God" and Jesus said "flesh and blood has not
shown you this Peter bar Jonas, but my Father in Heaven has revealed it to
you".
My answer so that we can put Thomas to rest.
1. Calling Jesus “Lord” is not calling
Jesus “Yehovah”. “Lord” is master, kurios, not LORD/Yehovah” the Father.
Jesus
is named Jesus.
Yehovah called HIMSELF “YEHOVAH”, “my name forever”.
2. “ Could it
be something similar to when Peter
said "you are the Christ the son of God" and Jesus said "flesh
and blood hath not shown you this Peter bar Jonas, but my Father in Heaven has
revealed it to you".
Ans.: Did Jesus affirm Thomas’ exclamation with a similar affirmation as Jesus did with Peter?
NO! Jesus spoke of believing his resurrection!
3. Was Thomas with the others and
received the Holy Ghost in Acts 2? YES!
4. Did Thomas preach the “similar revelation” in Acts? NO!
5. Did Peter preach Thomas’ “similar revelation in Acts ? NO!
6. Did PETER preach his “revelation” of
Jesus in Acts? YES!
7. According to Joseph Russell, is
Peter “antichrist” for not preaching the “Deity of Christ” and/
or Thomas’ exclamation? YES!
8. Did Peter preach the revelation of
Jesus Christ in Acts? YES! (numerous times)
9. Do I believe and preach what Peter preached? -YES!
10. Did Peter preach the words “Deity of Christ” –NO!
11. Was Thomas present when "Peter, taking his stand with the eleven, raised his voice and declared to them” who Jesus is? –YES!
Acts 2:22 “Men of Israel, listen to
these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a
man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which
God performed through Him…36 Therefore let all
the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified.”
Acts 3: 6 But Peter said, “I do not possess silver and gold, but what I do have I give to you: In the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene—walk!
Acts 4:8
Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said
to them..
10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the
name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene,
whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead
—26 ‘The kings of the earth took their stand, And the rulers were gathered
together against the Lord and against
His Christ.’
27 For truly in this city there were
gathered together against Your holy servant
Jesus, whom You anointed
Acts 5:30 The
God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you had put to death by
hanging Him on a cross. 31 He is the one whom
God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to
grant repentance to Israel.
:42 every day.. they kept right on teaching and preaching Jesus as the
Christ.
-BUT they were not “teaching and preaching Jesus is God”.
Acts 10, Peter:
The word which He sent to
the sons of Israel, preaching peace through Jesus Christ (He is Lord of
all)
— 37 you
yourselves know the thing which took place throughout all Judea, starting from
Galilee, after the baptism which John proclaimed.
38 You
know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed
Him with the Holy Spirit and with power
NO!
Does Thomas exclaiming "...MY GOD" in one place override and negate Jesus calling GOD "MY GOD" in FOURETEEN references?
Thomas said it in an undefined manner as an exclamation without another person saying the same words or quoting him, but when Jesus says it 14 times in specifics, should that be ignored?
If we want to speculate, ASSUMING Thomas is saying to Jesus "YOU ARE MY Jehovah and my God!" but Jesus said I ascend "TO MY GOD and your God..." same chapter.
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, **MY GOD**, **MY GOD**, why have you forsaken me?
and the name of the city of **MY GOD**, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from **MY GOD**, and mine own new name....
Only by inferences and imposing the traditional view over passages such as John 20:28 do people make scripture say what is not said.
My other post on Thomas is HERE.
Putting Thomas to Rest "My God" it's Time
Greetings Rory. I believe this short video is a far better explanation of John 20:28
ReplyDeleteJews of that era do not say things such as OMG as people do today!
https://t.co/uearWEzwpK
See also https://www.patheos.com/blogs/kermitzarleyblog/2013/11/thomas-said-to-christ-my-lord-and-my-god-he-meant-gods-in-christ-to-which-we-should-nod/
Thank You