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"do not be deceived my brethren.."
Was Jesus the bio son of Joseph or the
son of God??
Let's see how Godly people can be
deceived by a twisted use of scripture.
Precept: that Joseph fathered Jesus Christ through
sexual union with Mary.
Here is an
example given to show this theory:
Philip finds Nathanael, and said to
him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write,
Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
They went on to use the "seed of David" and lineage through Joseph to
further the argument.
Luke 3:8 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said to him, Son, why have you done this with us? 👉your father and I have sought for you sorrowing”.
When reading her position, the woman advocating this almost sounded believable... So subtle..
Let's reconcile and test the paternity.
John 8:19 Then said they to him,
Where is thy Father?
Jesus answered, You 𝗻𝗲𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗸𝗻𝗼𝘄 𝗺𝗲, 𝗻𝗼𝗿 𝗺𝘆 𝗙𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿:
if you had known me, you should have known my Father also.
But they knew Joseph.
John 6:42
And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and
mother we know?
But Luke mentioned Jesus as "the supposed" son of Joseph in
the genealogy.
There are some more scriptures mentioning Jesus as Joseph's son.
Let’s compare something, is King David
is the Father of Jesus? -I know, it is a minor quibble, but some people build
doctrines on a single verse.
Luke 1:32 He shall be great and shall
be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give to him the throne
of his father David.
Jesus is called what?
Luke 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the son of the Highest.
How to test paternity: let’s insert “Joseph” into these passages using “Father”:
John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me,
believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that <Joseph> the
Father is in me, and I in him.
John 11:27 She said to him, Yes, Lord:
I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of Joseph <God> , which
should come into the world.
John wrote for us to
believe Jesus is the son of Joseph?
John 20:31 But these are written,
that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the SON OF GOD;
God’s “only
begotten son”?
John 1:18 No man has seen God at any
time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he has
declared him.
1 John 4:9 By this the love of God was
manifested in us,
that God has sent 👉His only begotten Son 👈into
the world so that we might live through Him.
Don't fall for the deceiver that seeks
to dethrone the Son of God and make another Jesus that was the bio son of
Joseph.
Joseph took the 👉only begotten son of God👈
into his family and raised him as his son, along with the brothers and sisters
of Jesus that were bio-fathered by Joseph and Mary.
Joseph and Mary could not
and did not proclaim Jesus as God’s son to the family, neighbors, or people. Jesus
was revealed as the son of God in the right time.
The error of Jesus being the bio-son
of Joseph makes him no different than the rest of Joseph and Mary's children
except Jesus was their firstborn.
𝙏𝙝𝙚 "𝙊𝙉𝙇𝙔 𝘽𝙀𝙂𝙊𝙏𝙏𝙀𝙉" 𝙨𝙤𝙣 𝙤𝙛 𝙂𝙊𝘿 𝙚𝙭𝙥𝙤𝙨𝙚𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙅𝙤𝙨𝙚𝙥𝙝 𝙛𝙖𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙚𝙙 𝙅𝙚𝙨𝙪𝙨 𝙚𝙧𝙧𝙤𝙧.
Jesus, was conceived by the WORD, and named,
before Mary and Joseph came together.
Luke 3:21 And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the
child, his name was called Jesus, 👉which was so
named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
"they did not understand what he
spoke to them"
Luke 3:8 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said to him,
Son, why have you done this with us? 👉your father and I have sought for you sorrowing”.
49 And he said How is it that
ye sought me? Don’t you know that I must be about my Father’s business?
Was he speaking of Joseph the
carpenter's business?
-I think not. This was when Jesus was
12, years before he was baptized by John.
Like those that ascribe paternity to
Joseph: And they did not understand the saying which he spoke to them”
The simple truth is because Joseph
raised Jesus as his son in their family, Joseph was called as and known as (it
was supposed) the father of Jesus.
The wonderful truth from scripture is
Jesus was begotten by the Word, the "seed" (sperma) received by Mary
in faith, which brought forth the child called Jesus, the Christ.
1Peter 1:23 for you have been born again not of seed (sperma) which is perishable but imperishable
(seed), through the living and enduring word of God.
Where did Jesus
honor Joseph as his bio-father?
Jesus said: Luke 18:20 Do not bear false witness, Honor thy father
and thy mother.
John 8:49 Jesus answered, I have not a
devil; but I honor my Father, and you do dishonor me.
2 Peter 1:17 𝐅𝐨𝐫 𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐞𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐝 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐆𝐨𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐅𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐡𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐠𝐥𝐨𝐫𝐲, when
there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, this is
my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased.
John tells us to believe:
but these are written that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐆𝐨d;
and that believing you might have life
through his name.
Son of Man born of a virgin.
-by rory moore
From the beginning the devil attempted to kill or discredit Jesus, another twist is the idea that Joseph impregnated Mary and thus Joseph is the true paternal father of Jesus Christ. After he was risen from the dead, the Jews called him a deceiver, that the Isaiah 7:14 prophecy of a virgin conceiving was really only a young woman, not a virgin when Jesus was born.
A young woman getting pregnant
by her espoused husband would not be much of a “sign”, but a virgin conceiving
and having a child, that would be an amazing sign.
AFTER they knew who Jesus is,
they preached the same revelation Peter preached.
"you are the
Christ, the SON OF THE LIVING GOD".
John 3:18
He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that does not believe is
condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Witness
Matthew:
1:22 Now all
this was done,
23
and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
God
confirmed through Matthew for a reason that in time people would pick up
doctrines of demons regarding the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the *Son of God*.
An Ethiopian
believed Philip.
In Acts 8, And Philip opened
his mouth, beginning from this scripture, preached to him Jesus.
...............
And Philip said, “If you
believe with all your heart, you may.”
The Ethiopian answered and
said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”
-nothing was ever preached
about believing Jesus is the son of Joseph "as was *supposed",
and not once was that preached by anyone, including Philip after he knew who
Jesus is... because Phillip supposed Jesus was the bio-son of Joseph when he first met
the Christ.
Recently to my utter
astonishment, I have seen good people advocate that Joseph fathered Jesus
Christ, thus denying Jesus being born of a virgin, i.e. a maiden who said she
had “not known a man”, a Hebrewism for being a virgin.
Matthew 1:18
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was in this way: When His mother Mary was
espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was
found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Mary’s lineage are that she was a descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Luke 3:34); of the tribe of Judah (v 33). She was also a descendant of Boaz (v32) and David (v31). Significantly, Luke traces Mary’s lineage all the way back to Adam (v38).
There is not only the witness
of the word virgin, which some debate,
but the phrase "knew
her not" and "knew her" and "I
know not a man" bear witness to Mary's virginity, Christ's
conception, and Joseph and her coming together AFTER Jesus was born.
Genesis
24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her:
Leviticus
21:14 A widow, or one divorced, or a
profane woman, a harlot, these shall he not take: but a virgin of his own people
shall he take to wife.
Deniers use
the broader term for “virgin” in Isa. 7:14 to deny the Paternity of GOD the
Father.
Defined as: H1330 בְּתוּלָה
bethûlâh a virgin (from her
privacy); sometimes (by continuation) a bride; also: - maid, virgin. Total KJV occurrences: 50
Various renderings of Isa. 7:14 translate
it “virgin” and or “young woman”.
Mary was *both*.
The Original
Jewish Bible translates it: Therefore
Hashem Himself shall give you an ot (sign); Hinei, HaAlmah (the unmarried young
virgin) shall conceive, and bear Ben, and shall call Shmo Immanu El
(G-d is with us)
The Biblical term
“knew/ know” is used in terms of sexual union.
Judges 19:25 But the men would not hear him: so the man took his concubine, and
brought her forth to them; and they knew her, and abused her all
the night
Genesis 4:1 And the man knew Eve his wife; and she
conceived,
1 Kings
1:4 And the damsel was very fair; and
she cherished the king, and ministered to him; but the king knew her not.
Genesis 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and
she conceived..
1 Sam 1:19-20 And Elkanah
knew Hannah his wife; and Jehovah remembered her; 20 and it came
to pass, when the time was come about, that Hannah conceived, and bare a
son;
Genesis 19:8 Behold now, I have two
daughters that have not known man ..
Judges 21:12 And they found among the
inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead four hundred
young virgins, that had not known man
by lying with him
Judges
11:39 And at the end of two months, she
returned to her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had
vowed: and she knew not man. (she
remained a virgin all her life)
Matthew 1:24-25 ASV 24 And Joseph arose from his sleep, and did
as the angel of the Lord commanded him, and took to him his wife;
25 and knew her not
till she had brought forth a son: and he called his name Jesus.
Luke 1:34
And Mary said to the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
(BECAUSE
SHE WAS A VIRGIN!!!)
35 And the angel answered and said , The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the *power of the Most High shall overshadow you:
wherefore also the holy which is begotten shall be called the Son of God. Our wonderful Savior Jesus was not begotten
by physical seed .
* power: Greek dudamos.
force (literally or figuratively); specifically miraculous power (usually by
implication a miracle itself):
miracle (-s), power, strength,
(wonderful) work.
Because
Joseph “knew her not” and she said” How can this be for I KNOW NOT A MAN?” -and Joseph “knew her not till <i.e.
after> Jesus was born”
SEED OF DAVID THROUGH
THE MOTHER:
wishanswers.org › ask-the-rabbi-category › the-basics-of-judaism › ?p=933
Judaism
Passed Through the Mother - JewishAnswers.org
A
child is the compilation of the mother and the father. Both parents have the
ability to educate and give to a child. There is a three way partnership there;
the mother, the father, and G-d. Finally, the last part of your question was of
patrilineal heritage. If a child's mother is Jewish and their father is not,
they are Jewish.
https://www.chabad.org ›
library › article_cdo › aid › 601092 › jewish ›
Why-Is-Jewishness-Matrilineal.htm
Why
Is Jewishness Matrilineal? - Maternal Descent In Judaism
The
Code of Jewish Law clearly states that a child of a Jewish mother is Jewish,
regardless of the father's lineage (or whatever else may show up in a DNA
test), while the child of a non-Jewish mother is not Jewish. 1 Matrilineal
descent has been a fundamental principle of Torah since the Jewish people came
into existence.
Jesus referred to GOD as his “Father” FORTY TWO times (ASV), not once did he refer to Joseph as his father! (Some people who did not know who Jesus is thought he was Joseph’s begotten son though.
Adam was created not “begotten”, but Jesus Christ was “begotten” by the power
of GOD in the womb of a virgin.
Jesus has a
God and Father. His Father is The LORD GOD, he said so 42 times, (I counted),
but not once did he refer to Joseph as his Abba.
Our wonderful Savior Jesus was not begotten by physical seed or by
Joseph, the man who was his surrogate earthly father, rather God's WORD was the
seed that conceived Christ.
Christ was
"begotten" of GOD the Father, as Mary received and believed God's
WORD, as Gabriel delivered it to her.
Jesus said the WORD is seed.
The word that is "seed" is Spirit and Life. It has power.
Luke 8: 10 And he said, to you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom
of God: but to the rest in parables; that seeing they may not see, and hearing
they may not understand.
11 Now the parable is this:
Mary
"knew not a man", but she DID receive the Word
from God, the "seed" which had power to cause her to be pregnant with a
holy child.
The reason
Mary was a virgin was because "SHE KNEW NOT a man".
SHE WAS FULFILLING the PROPHECY in Isa.
7:14!
1 Peter 1:23 having been begotten
again,
Did GOD
provide a Messiah through two humans with an iniquity nature in their DNA?
There is no definitive proof for Joseph and Mary conceiving baby Jesus.
Then you have the anecdotal discovery of
Ron Wyatt and the blood, lab tests, and DNA
he found under Calvary Hill in the cave, and the blood tested had 23 “X”
chromosomes from the mother and only one
male “Y” chromosome…. Joseph would have brought 23 Y chromosomes.
Jesus’s life began by the miraculous Power of God and he resurrected by same
power, the WORD that he prophesied from GOD regarding his resurrection.
AKJV
and
knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his
name JESUS.
LEB
and
did not have sexual relations with her until she gave birth to a son. And he
called his name Jesus.
TLB
but
she remained a virgin until her Son was born; and Joseph named him “Jesus.”
MEV
and
did not know her until she had given birth to her firstborn Son. And he called
His name JESUS.
MOUNCE
but
he had no marital relations with her until she had given birth to a son; and he
called · him Jesus.
NOG
He
did not have marital relations with her before she gave birth to a son. Joseph
named the child Yeshua.
NASB1995
but
kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.
NCB
but
he engaged in no marital relations with her until she gave birth to a son, whom
he named Jesus.
NCV
but
he did not have sexual relations with her until she gave birth to the son. And
Joseph named him Jesus.
NET
but
did not have marital relations with her until she gave birth to a son, whom he
named Jesus.
NIRV
But
he did not sleep with her until she gave birth to a son. And Joseph gave him
the name Jesus.
NIV
But
he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave
him the name Jesus.
NIVUK
But
he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave
him the name Jesus.
NLT
But
he did not have sexual relations with her until her son was born. And Joseph
named him Jesus.
1God Fathered the Son of Man born of a virgin
Recently to my utter astonishment,
I have seen people advocate that Joseph fathered Jesus Christ, thus denying
Jesus being born of a virgin, i.e. a maiden who had “not known a man”,
a Hebrewism for a virgin.
There is not only the witness of the word virgin, which some may debate,
but the phrase "knew her not" and "knew her"
and "I know not a man" bear witness to Mary's
virginity, Christ's conception, and Joseph and her coming together AFTER Jesus
was born.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a
virgin, neither had any man known her:
Leviticus
21:14 A widow, or one divorced, or a profane woman, a harlot, these shall he
not take: but a virgin of his own people shall he take
to wife.
Deniers use the broader term for “virgin” in Isa. 7:14 to deny
the Paternity of GOD the Father:
"a *virgin shall conceive"
H1330 בְּתוּלָה bethûlâh Feminine passive participle of an unused root
meaning to separate; a virgin (from her privacy);
sometimes (by continuation) a bride; also (figuratively) a city or state: -
maid, virgin.
Total KJV occurrences: 50
Various renderings of Isa. 7:14 render it “virgin” and or “young woman”.
Mary was *both*.
The
Original Jewish Bible translates it:
Therefore Hashem Himself shall give you an ot (sign);
Hinei, HaAlmah (the unmarried young virgin) shall conceive,
and bear Ben, and shall call Shmo Immanu El (G-d is with us)
The use of the expression “know” is shown in many examples, here
are some examples we should know that they knew:
Genesis 4:1 And the man knew Eve his wife; and she conceived,
1 Kings 1:4 And the damsel was very fair; and she cherished the
king, and ministered to him; but the king knew her not.
1 Sam 1:19-20 And Elkanah knew Hannah his wife; and Jehovah remembered her; 20 and it came to pass, when the
time was come about, that Hannah conceived, and bare a son;
Genesis 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters that have not known man ..
Judges 21:12 And they found among the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead four hundred
young virgins, that had not known man by lying with him
Judges 11:39 And at the end of two months, she returned to her
father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew not man.
(she remained a virgin all her life)
Matthew 1:24-25 ASV 24 And Joseph arose from his sleep, and did as the angel of the Lord commanded
him, and took to him his wife;
25 and knew her not till she had brought forth a son:
and he called his name Jesus.
Multiple English versions.
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%201:25
Luke 1:34 And Mary said to the angel,
How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
(BECAUSE SHE WAS A VIRGIN!!!)
35 And the angel answered and said , The Holy Spirit shall come upon
thee, and the *power of the Most High shall overshadow you:
wherefore also the holy which is begotten shall be called the Son of God. Our
wonderful Savior Jesus was not begotten by physical seed .
* power: Greek dudamos.
force (literally or figuratively); specifically
miraculous power (usually by implication a miracle itself):
miracle (-s), power, strength, (wonderful) work.
Because Joseph “knew her not” and she said” HOW can this
be for I KNOW NOT A MAN?””
-and Joseph “knew her not till <i.e. after> Jesus
was born”
SEED OF DAVID THROUGH THE MOTHER:
wishanswers.org ›
ask-the-rabbi-category › the-basics-of-judaism › ?p=933
Judaism Passed Through the Mother - JewishAnswers.org
A child is the compilation of the mother and the father. Both
parents have the ability to educate and give to a child. There is a three way
partnership there; the mother, the father, and G-d. Finally, the last part of
your question was of patrilineal heritage. If a child's mother is Jewish and
their father is not, they are Jewish.
https://www.chabad.org ›
library › article_cdo › aid › 601092 › jewish ›
Why-Is-Jewishness-Matrilineal.htm
Why Is Jewishness Matrilineal? - Maternal Descent In Judaism
The Code of Jewish Law clearly states that a child of a Jewish
mother is Jewish, regardless of the father's lineage (or whatever else may show
up in a DNA test), while the child of a non-Jewish mother is not Jewish. 1
Matrilineal descent has been a fundamental principle of Torah since the Jewish
people came into existence.”
Jesus referred to GOD as his “Father” FORTY TWO times(ASV),not once did he refer to Joseph as his father! (Some people who did not know who Jesus is thought he was Joseph’s begotten son though.
Adam was created not “begotten”, but Jesus Christ was “begotten” by the power of GOD in the womb of a virgin.
Jesus has a God and Father. His Father is The LORD GOD, he said
so 42 times, (I counted), but not once did he refer to Joseph as his Abba.
Our wonderful Savior Jesus was not begotten by physical seed or by
Joseph, the man who was his surrogate earthly father, rather God's WORD was the
seed that conceived Christ.
Christ was "begotten" of GOD the Father, as Mary
received and believed God's WORD, as Gabriel delivered it to her.
Jesus said the WORD of God is seed.
The "word" that is "seed" is Spirit and Life. It has power.
Luke 8: 10 And he said, to you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom
of God: but to the rest in parables; that seeing they may not see, and hearing
they may not understand.
11 Now the parable is this:
Mary "knew not a man", but she DID receive the Word from God,
the "seed" which had power to cause her to be pregnant
with a holy child.
The reason Mary was a virgin was because "SHE KNEW
NOT a man".
SHE WAS FULFILLING the PROPHECY in Isa. 7:14!
1 Peter 1:23 having been begotten again,
Then you have the anecdotal discovery of Ron Wyatt and the blood, lab tests,
and DNA he found under Calvary Hill in the cave, and the blood tested had 23
“X” chromosomes from the mother and only one male “Y” chromosome…. Joseph would
have brought 23 Y chromosomes.
Jesus’s life began by the miraculous Power of God and he resurrected by same
power, the WORD that he prophesied
from GOD regarding his resurrection.
Let's insert the Joseph-is-Jesus'-bio-father in these verses in place of God-The-Father, and demonstrate the fallacy, if not utter absurdity, of the idea. Please humor me in these "straw man" illustrations.
Let's put Joseph into all those verses like:
John 5:43 I am come
in my Father’s JOSEPHs name, and you receive me not: if another shall
come in his own name, him you will receive.
John 8:19 They said therefore to him, Where is thy
Father Joseph?
Jesus answered, Ye know neither me, nor my Father Joseph :
if ye knew me, ye would know my
Father Joseph also.
John 8:49 Jesus answered, I have not a demon; but I honor my Father Joseph, and ye dishonor me.
John 14:7 If ye had known
me, ye would have known my Father Joseph also: from
henceforth ye know Joseph, and
have seen him.
Luke 2:49 according to
the error:
And
he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? knew ye not that I
must be in my Father’s Joseph's house?
Unlike a former lying US President,
If Joseph could speak now, he might say "I DID NOT HAVE SEX
WITH THAT YOUNG WOMAN MARY before Jesus was born!"" –but of
course he did say that and it is in the scripture just worded different.
WITNESSES TESTIFIED:
Gabriel
witnessed her virginity and not union with Joseph.
"𝑩𝒆𝒉𝒐𝒍𝒅, 𝒂 𝒗𝒊𝒓𝒈𝒊𝒏 𝒔𝒉𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒃𝒆 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒄𝒉𝒊𝒍𝒅, "
Isa. 7:14
Orthodox Jewish Bible. Therefore
Hashem Himself shall give you an ot (sign); Hinei,
Extensive dive on “virgin”
Footnote: "virgin"
*as was supposed the son of Joseph.
"supposed": the same word used repeats: