70 Reasons Tithing is FLAT WRONG new version

70 Reasons Tithing is FLAT WRONG ©
rory moore

-the systematic take-down of a false doctrine.
These are truths about tithing you won't hear in churches that teach money tithes.

You can find my free  book, "The Tithe That Binds"  and read online:  

https://archive.org/details/TheTitheThatBindsByRoryOMoore/page/n21/mode/2up 

I. Tithing and Abraham

1. His tithe was a one time tithe from the chief spoils of war, not his own wealth. Gen. 14:20-Heb. 7:4)
2. He gave back the other 90%. Gen. 14:21-23. Tithe teachers seem to miss that detail as they seek to justify money tithes from followers.
3. There is no scripture he ever tithed again from his own wealth, gifts, or from captured war booty.
4. Before he met Melchizedek, Abram was rich in cattle, silver, and gold, but paid no tithes on his own wealth in scripture. Genesis (13:2 )
5. Nowhere did the apostles command churches to tithe like Abraham, as a continuing practice.
6. Abraham lived before Moses who delivered the Old Testament laws. But God's own law never gave Abraham as an example for paying tithes from income, money, or produce.

7. Abraham never made a tithe covenant.  After tithing once to Melchizedek, Abraham did not tithe from the goods and money given to him from Abimelech. Gen. 20:14-16
8. Abraham and God did make a continuing covenant including circumcision. -but not one for tithing. (Gen. 17:10-12)
9. His son Isaac never tithed in scripture.
10. His grandson Jacob pledged to tithe, but the Bible never says he gave them, who he might have given them to, and God never commanded him to do so.

II. Israel and the tithe.
11. The law of Moses defined the ordinance of tithing. (Lev. 27:30, Numbers 16, Deut. 14:23, Mal 3:7. The ordinances were specific in what was to be tithed. The law itself stated nobody was to change, add or take away from what the law itself said, under a strong curse penalty. 

Deut 27:26 Cursed be he that confirms not all the words of this law to do them. ..
12. God defined the tithe in ordinances and commands under law, as farm products!
 Leviticus.27:30-31 And all the tithe of the land,  of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree,  is the Lords: it is holy to the Lord.
 Deuteronomy 14:23   And you will eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose, … the tithe of grain, of new wine, of oil, and the first of your herd and flock; ....  and the law was not to be altered.

13. The lawful tithe was FOOD from both farm products and clean animals from inside the holy land of Israel.
Zech 2:12 And the LORD shall inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land, and shall yet choose Jerusalem.) Produce from outside the land of Israel was unclean and unacceptable for tithes.
14. Foreigners, fishermen, wage earners, and tradesmen, had no command to tithe.
(Numbers 18:28 Thus also offer a heave-offering to the LORD of all your tithes, which ye receive of the children of Israel;)
  Non-Jews had no instruction to tithe anything.

15. The tithe was to provide food for the Levite priests, sojourners, widows, orphans.
Deuteronomy 26:12 When you make an end of tithing all the tithe of the increase in the third year,  which is the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the sojourner, to the fatherless, and to the widow, that they may eat within thy gates,  and be filled.
Numbers 20:21 and to the children of Levi, behold, I have given all the tithe in Israel for an inheritance, in return for their service, the service of the tent of meeting.

16. The (edible) tithe was also brought into the temple storehouse and was eaten and used by the priests, ministers, porters, and singers. 

The Levite priests were to give and distribute the tithes to others, which was a tithe of the tithe. (1/10th of 1/10th).
 Nehemiah 10:38 And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites,  when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes to the house  of our God, to the chambers, in the treasure-house.

Neh. 13:5  and had prepared a great room, where before they laid the meal-offerings, the frankincense, and the vessels, and the tithes of the grain, the new wine, and the oil,  given by commandment to the Levites, and the singers, and the porters; and the heave-offerings for the priests.

 -do churches who teach tithes pay singers and doorkeepers?

17. The tithe was never for the benefit of one man.
18. The Levite Priests that had the command to receive tithes could not own land.
 Deuteronomy 18:2 And they shall have no inheritance among their brethren:  The LORD is their inheritance,  as he has spoken to them.

NOTE:  Even if and when a farmer SOLD crops or livestock, he did not pay monetary tithes on that which was sold.  God never required monetary tithes from anyone.

III. The Tithe In Malachi: 

19. In Malachi 3, it was the Levite priests that God rebuked over robbing tithes and offerings.
      Mal. 2:1  O you priests, this commandment is for you.
20. In Malachi the prophet rebukes the priests, the religious leaders, for not  providing for the "the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless...."

21.  The hireling and his wages were not commanded to tithe.

22.  In Malachi 3:7-10, the passage often used to gather church tithes, "ordinances" are referenced, the priests rebuked for not correctly tithing and offering.
(7) From the days of your fathers you have turned away from my ordinances,  and not kept them. Verse 9 states the Levites were "robbing God" in tithes defined in the ordinances!

23. Neither tithes or offerings as commanded and defined by God in the law and were monetary or from income.

Tithes: Lev. 27:30, offerings: Exodus 29.
24. Malachi 3:9 therefore is not a reference to tithing from income.

25. Malachi 3:9 is never quoted in the New Testament to any church or given as an ordinance to the churches as in Acts 15 when the apostles and elders ruled on what law they were or were not to observe.. 

IV. The seed tithe:

26. The "seed tithe" was a yearly and third year tithe. It was seed, not money. Deut. 14:22)
27. The "seed" tithe could be changed "IN TO money", and taken to the feast.
28. The tithe exchanged into money could buy "whatever thy soul desires" - for the tither and his family.
      Deut. 14:26  and thou shall use the money for whatever your soul desires, for cattle, sheep, or for wine, for strong drink, or whatever… you shall eat before the LORD and rejoice, you and your household.
29.  The every "third year" tithe of seed was commanded for the benefit of the Levite, stranger, orphans, and widows, and was not money from income earned.
Deut. 14:28   At the end of every three years you shall bring forth all the tithe of the  increase in the same year,  and lay it up within thy gates: 
 29   and the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance, and the sojourner, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are within your gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hand.

30. The tithe itself was never defined as money by the Lord, nor were the Old Testament tithes  ever re-defined by an apostle or Jesus as 10% of income paid in money.

V. Tithing in In the New Testament:

31. Jesus affirmed tithing was as defined by God in the law, and was "of the matters of the law". 

Matthew 23:23
32. Jesus did not mention Abraham paying tithes before the law.
33. Jesus and the apostles never said paying a tithe from income was blessed but did say "GIVING" is blessed.
34. Jesus did say He required disavowing ownership of all  we have,
       or we could not be disciples.   Luke 14:33
35. Jesus affirmed to Jews under the law, that they were to keep the law as it was written. Mat. 23:23
36. Jesus affirmed the tithe as it was given in the law, and not as 10% of income.

37. At His death, Jesus delivered the New Covenant through His apostles by the Holy Spirit.  Hebrews 9:17  a testament is of force where there has been death:  for it has no authority while he that made it lives.
       (that is why Jesus affirmed tithing, and Moses laws while he lived)

38. At the cross, Jesus annulled, discharged, abolished, blotted out, and canceled the ordinances of the Old Covenant.
 Eph. 2:15 Col. 2:914, 2Cor 3:14 Heb 8:15–are some of the verses affirming the passing away of the ordinances. There are many more.

39.  The tithe ordinance and command under the law was never changed into a tithe from wages, sales, or paid in money in the New Testament, nor was a church building ever called "the storehouse".

VI. Ministers and Tithes:  

 40. In Hebrews 7, it was pointed out that men here, the Levites, had a command to take tithes from their brethren, "according to the law". Tithes were defined in the Old Covenant Law.

Heb 7:5 And the sons of Levi that receive the priest's office have commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law.


41. There is no New Testament "office" of a priest or pastor, and the “foregoing commandment” was CANCELED. Heb. 7: 18  For there is a dis-annulling (canceling) of the foregoing commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness
42. The “foregoing” tithe commandment in Hebrews 7 was not from income, nor was it money. -it was the lawful tithe that was “commanded” for Levite priests to take from their brethren.
43. The tithes in Hebrews 7 were not transformed into money and set aside
       for New Testament ministers anywhere in the New Testament.
44. The church assembled in Acts 15 to deal with people that were troubling the churches and Christians, "subverting their souls", in that they were teaching Christians to keep Old Testament law, including the tithe ordinance.

45. The apostles and elders stated "they gave no such command" to observe the Old Covenant ordinances which included tithes, and they warned and forbid the legalists from going beyond the apostles teaching.

46. In no fewer than 30 passages in Acts where money, giving, offerings, work, and alms are mentioned, there is not mention of tithing. 

See “Tithing in Acts?”

47. In Galatians 1:7 Paul warned of those bringing New Testament Christians back under Old  Testament law, which he called "bondage" in Gal.5:1, and was what he warned about: "which is not another gospel only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ."
: "pervert" means "to twist or change", as in changing the meaning of a word  into something God did not say..
-Such like the agricultural "tithe" was or is from income, or a pastor is the equivalent of a Levite priest..

VII. Giving or Tithing?

48. In none of the New Testament scriptures was "tithe" included in passages regarding collection's, gathering, giving, ministering, sacrifice, or offering.
49. Those who command and teach tithing from income are perverting the gospel because tithing as defined in God’s law, and tithing 10% from income are not given to any church or saint.
50. God forbid changing, twisting, adding to, or diminishing from the gospel.

51.  No pastor, prophet, apostle, or minister in scripture ever testified of paying or receiving tithes from income.
52.  No prophet, pastor, apostle, or minister has a scriptural command to take tithes from their brethren according to Old Testament law, or New Testament command.
53. No teacher, preacher, pastor, apostle, or prophet has authority to pervert the OT tithe into NT doctrine. -Paul warned in 1Cor 4:6 ... "that you learn  not to go beyond that which is written that none of you be puffed up... against the other"

54. Paul and the other apostles gave us the New Testament commands of the Lord.   There was no command, ordinance, quoting of tithe laws, or reminders to  "pay tithes".  Their words are the Words of God and the commands to Christians.

Jesus said in Matthew 28:20 make disciples, teaching them to observe all  whatever I commanded you ...   

and the gospel story continues into Acts 1: 

..... :1 concerning all that Jesus began both to do and to teach, 

(2)  until the day he was received up, ==> after that he (Jesus) had given commandment  through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen:

Did you catch that?
The "commandment" of Jesus to New Testament saints after the resurrection came through Spirit-filled apostles, who would teach what Jesus wanted us to observe. 

VIII. Then "after that", What did the apostles teach?:

55. The church in Acts continued in what the Holy Ghost filled apostles taught.
      Acts 2:42 And they continued steadfast in the apostles teaching, fellowship, in the breaking of bread and prayers.
56.  The church received the teaching and commands of the Lord through the apostles.  2nd Peter 3:2 that ye should remember the words which were spoken before  by the holy prophets, and the commandments of the Lord and Saviour through your apostles:

57. The church was told to remember their teaching, and they never taught tithing to the church.
58. The church acknowledged the apostle’s writings as Christ’s commandments.
Since the apostles never commanded tithing, it is not a commandment of the Lord.   1Cor 14:37  If any man thinks himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him know that the things which I write to you, are the commandment of the Lord.

59. The churches were expected to continue in the apostles commands and not go beyond that.
 2Thess 3:4 And we are confident in the Lord that you are doing and will continue to do the things we commanded you. NLT

60. The early Jewish church knew what the Lord had commanded we are not to add to His Word,  diminish from it, or pervert the meaning of it.
 Galatians 1:7 which is not another gospel only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Deuteronomy 16:19 you shall not twist justice: you shall not respect persons; nor  take a bribe;  for a bribe blinds the eyes of the wise, and pervert the words of the righteous. 

Yes, money tithes are twisted judgment and bring “respect of persons” toward those that tithe more than others.

61. Since the commands of the Lord given through the apostles do not include tithing from  income, those who  teach tithing from income are perverting His Word and need to be corrected.
Deuteronomy 12:32 What I command you,  observe to do: you shall not add to, or diminish from it. 

62. The original church in Acts never mentioned any tithing, rather they "had ALL things common", sharing, and meeting each others need.
Acts 2: 44  And all that believed were together, and had all things common; (45) and they sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all  according as any man had need. <= Does that sound like tithes to you?

We find it strange how churches teach tithing but in the Book of Acts the disciples worked, gave, supplied each other, sold property, and ministered to the needs of others but not once is any form of tithing attached to any of those actions by the NT writers!

63.  NONE of the churches that teach tithing do as they did in Acts 2:44-45.

64. When Tithes and offerings are recorded for charitable contribution tax deductions by every church organizations and ministry, and as such, are reported to the government for a tax deduction, you have your reward.
     Matthew 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your righteousness before men,
     to be seen (observed) of them:  else ye have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.
65. Matthew 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your righteousness before men,
 to be seen (observed) of them: or ye have no reward with your Father in heaven.
The context for "your righteousness was giving alms, not tithes. Alms are merciful and compassionate voluntarily bestowed by the giver, and not by duty to a percentage under law.

65. The tax deduction is a reward from man for reported tithing.
        The reward comes from man and not from God.
        Reported tax-deductible tithing is seen by a church administrator, bank, tax authorities to  whom it is reported, and any official that looks at your tax forms.
2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

IX. What the New Testament DOES say:

66. "GIVE and it shall be given..."
Luke 11:41  But rather give alms of such things as ye have
Acts 20:35   I have showed you all things, how that so laboring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
2 Corinthians 9:7   Every man according as he purposes in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loves a cheerful giver.
Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labor, working with his hands, that he may have to give to him that needs.
Matthew 6:1   Take care not to do your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward
Luke 11:41 But rather give alms of such things as ye have; and, behold, all are clean unto you

67. It is ludicrous that Jesus who took no tithes on earth for 33 years, only to get to heaven and now calls for money tithes. 

68. why the modern church tithe doctrine is FLAT WRONG:

-Proof that Abram who gave only one written tithe to Melchizedek, stated the spoils he captured in war and gave tithes from were not his.

Gen. 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; now he was a priest of God Most High. 19 He blessed him (Abram) and said,

“Blessed be Abram of God Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth;
20 And blessed be God Most High, Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.”
 and he (Abram) gave him (Melchizedek) a tenth of all.

21 The king of Sodom (Mel.) said to Abram, “Give the people to me and take the goods for yourself.”

===>>> 22 Abram said to the king of Sodom, “I have sworn to the Lord God Most High, possessor of heaven and earth, 

23 that I will not take a thread or a sandal thong OR ANYTHING THAT IS YOURS, for fear you would say, ‘I have made Abram rich..

Can you see that Abram proceeded to give ALL back except what his soldiers had eaten?
24 I will take NOTHING except what the young men have eaten.

69. In the New Testament, Not tithing is never called out as sin, "robbing God", "being stingy/selfish/ or anyone not tithing mentioned.

70. Reason #70 tithing is flat wrong. Tithes to God?
Leviticus 27:30 ‘Thus all the tithe of the land, of the seed of the land or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’s; it is holy to the LORD.

Numbers 18:28 So you shall also present an offering to the Lord from your tithes, which you receive from the sons of Israel..

Malachi 3:8 “Will a man ROB GOD?

Yet you are robbing ME!

But you say, ‘How have we robbed You?’

In tithes and offerings........

The tithe was law, not monetary, and was an ordinance nailed to the cross of Christ.

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For New Testament thoughtful questions.

Did Jesus receive tithes before or after the cross and after the resurrection???

DID ANY Spirit-filled believer tithe in Acts???

Although no warnings or instructions are given for New Testament tithes, there ARE warnings and instructions regarding perverting scripture, extortioners, and taking oversight for "filthy lucre".

The sum of the matter is:

Money tithing is *false doctrine* and abuse of the people that trust their "leaders". 

Words used such as “give”, “alms”, “gatherings”, and “collections” are never defined as a 10% tithe in the New Testament.
Therefore it is “perverting the gospel” to insert someone’s idea or tithe definition into any of the text’s where those words are used. 

There is not one single instruction to any church or saint under New Covenant scripture, to pay a tithe to anyone.

Abraham Failed to Tithe Before the Law?

 Did Abraham Fail to tithe,  before the law?

We were often taught to pay tithes of 10% on income to our churches... Abraham "before the law" was often cited to make this appeal to our congregation.

But, as Paul Harvey said "Here's the REST OF THE STORY"...   

The reasoning went because Abram gave the king-priest "Melchizedek" tithes from the spoils of battle, we should follow suit if we are true to God. 

An emotional appeal to show our own thankfulness to God through a 10% expression may be followed by a verse or two read from the Bible, usually a passage from the law such as Malachi 3:9-10.   

What is NOT pointed out by well-meaning leaders that may benefit from those tithes is: 

 1. Abram only tithed ONCE........... *once in scripture*

   (Genesis 14:20)

 2. Abram then gave the other 90% away also! ........**hmmm** ......:
     (Gen. 14:23)

 3. A few chapters later, we find out a little secret, that in Genesis 20:14 Abraham was bestowed with sheep, oxen, and servants as a free gift, including a financial increase.
   And Abimelech took sheep and oxen, and men-servants and women-servants, and gave them to Abraham, and restored him Sarah his wife. (16)  And unto Sarah he said, Behold, I have given thy brother a thousand pieces of silver..... 

 -What?!  1k of SILVER, besides "sheep and oxen and women servants"? 

What happened to Melchizedek?
What happened to faithful Abraham tithing?
Where's the tithe on his increase?

Did Abraham "rob God"?
How come the Man of God in the Suit behind the pulpit did not notice this passage "before the law"?

What if he is blinded by tradition and dependence on tithe-income from the pew?  

Abraham paid no tithes on all that money and livestock... "before the law".

Of course the people who may financially benefit most from the unscriptural tithes collected from the trusting folks in the pew, will rarely admit the error and missing the Genesis 20 details. ..........

Using the example of Abram's one-time  tithe from material he captured in war and not from his own wealth, should be strongly challenged as a "pay your tithes" church doctrine. 

The Biblical reality that good 'ole Abraham paid no tithe in Genesis 20 exposes the fact that many are defrauded by the teaching that we should pay tithes based on the "before the law" reasoning... 

Have you ever heard "the children of the kingdom are free" as Jesus said, as the plate was passed? 

A warning from Colossians 2:8 (NIRV) 

8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. (Christ never taught money-income tithes)

Pastor, will you cease from teaching the error of tithing from income based on "before the law" now?

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Regarding Genesis 20, Let's point out:
1.  there is no mention of tithes, therefore we cannot add or assume what is not stated.
2.  No other writer in scripture witnessed to Abraham tithing in Gen. 20.
3.  Of note, Abraham was rich long before he tithed in Gen. 14.
4.  The tithe to Melchisedek was not from Abraham's own wealth. -it was spoils of war.
5.  Abraham gave the other 90% away also. Gen 14;23
6.  God did not establish tithing in the Abrahamic covenant. 
7.  Abraham was given a covenant of circumcision which was confirmed as an on-going obedience.
8.  "BEFORE THE LAW"; what other matters are found?
a. Abraham had children by his maid servant without sin.
b. Abraham married his niece, his brothers daughter.
c. Abraham wore a robe, like Jesus, and like God gave Adam and Eve, (ok, humor me). 
THINK! -We do not follow other "before the law" practices such as circumcision (and it was a command), plural marriage, having concubines, or slavery.  
9. Therefore we cannot use Abraham's example to justify tithing nor did the apostles instruct so in the New Covenant. 


We should never "cherry pick" what we like or don't like from scripture to impose as doctrine something the apostles never instructed or commanded the saints to do. Abraham's failure to pay tithes in Genesis 20 illustrates the error of using him as an example for us to pay 10% of our income to a pastor or denomination.

Alms, Not Tithes?

Alms, Not Tithes.
-rory moore

orig in 2014.

How far we have missed a teaching that is close to God's heart.

Although tithing was never commanded or taught by any apostle to any church or saint, let us look at  what scripture says about ALMS.

1. Matthew 6:2 When therefore you do alms, sound not a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have received their reward. verse 1)
Take heed that ye do not your righteousness before men, to be seen of them: else ye have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.

It should get our attention that Jesus called "alms" as "your righteousness"<==

2. === 6:3  But *when you do alms*, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand does:

3. === 6:4 that *your alms* may be in secret: and thy Father who sees in secret shall recompense you.

4. ===  Luke 11:41 But give for alms those things which are within; and behold, all things are clean unto you.

5. ===  Luke 12:33 Sell that which you have, and *give alms*; make for yourselves purses which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that fail not, where no thief comes near, neither moth destroys.

6. === Acts 3:2 And a certain man that was lame from his mother's womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the door of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple;

7. === Acts 3:3 who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple, asked to receive an alms.

8. === Acts 3:10 and they took knowledge of him, that it was he that sat for alms at the Beautiful Gate of the temple; and they were filled with wonder and amazement at that which had happened unto him.

9. === Acts 9:36 Now there was at Joppa a certain disciple named Tabitha, which by interpretation is called Dorcas: this woman was full of good works and almsdeeds which she did. 

10. === Acts 10:2 a devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, who gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God always.

11. === Acts 10:4  And he, fastening his eyes upon him, and being affrighted, said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and your alms are gone up for a memorial before God.

12. === Acts 10:31 and saith, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God.

"WHEN YOU GIVE ALMS...." and   "your righteousness..."

Jesus did not say "when you tithe..." and none of the apostles He sent did either.

ALMS defined: ccompassionate that is, (as exercised towards the poor) beneficence, or (concretely) a benefaction: - alms (-deeds).

How many teachings did we have on "alms" in 24 years in the church system, and listening to thousands of sermons, messages, and teachings?

In my experience, I vaguely recall them being mentioned once.... and that was around 25 years ago...

2Corinthians 9:5 (NKJV)
 1 For as touching the ministering *to* the saints
 5 Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren to go to you ahead of time, and prepare your generous gift beforehand, which you had previously promised, that it may be ready as a matter of generosity and not as a grudging obligation.6
But this I say, He that sows sparingly ("TO THE SAINTS") shall reap also sparingly; and he that sows bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

 ‎9 as it is written, He hath scattered abroad, he hath given to the poor (TO THE SAINTS);
    his righteousness abides forever.  note: "his righteousness"...

Matthew 6:1 Take heed that ye do not ===>your righteousness <===before men, to be seen of them: else ye have no reward with your Father who is in heaven. 2) When therefore thou doest alms

Widows, orphans, the infirm, those in need.

Do you see Jesus called alms (ministering to others needs), and Paul, "your righteousness"?

This is illustrated in 1st John 3:17               But whoever has the world's goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his compassion from him, how doth the love of God abide in him?

In contrast,  we  have no instruction for the church to “tithe” in our Covenant.
I have taught that in times past, but I cannot prove it from scripture.
The 10% benchmark is not according to New Testament for  ministering in giving. 

In fact, if we really believe Jesus, what he said in Luke 14:33 is a  key to discipleship. I believe he meant it..  "except you renounce ALL that you have, you cannot be My disciple".
"ALL"  may include our time, possessions, and even our doctrine as we give ourselves to Him and ask for His Will to be done in us. We simply give ourselves to Him and then expect Him to use us in our day.

IF we are to be His disciple.. When I realized He meant that, I saw how I had read over it without stopping to consider the weight of His Words... Luke 14:33.

"as you have done it to the least of these, My brethren, you have done it unto me".
Giving to needs is an act of love that blesses the giver and the ones who benefit, and is a wonderful ministry to the Lord...

He hollered at me: "WHERE DOES IT SAY NOT to TITHE?!!" I answered..

 

Answering a pastor’s highly charged question  "Where does it say not to tithe?!"  by rory moore

He thought he had me, but lo and behold, God anticipated the straw man argument.

Let’s look at a passage used to teach tithing from the New Testament.
He quoted from the passage "indeed men here receive tithes". And then he shouted "Show me where they are taken out!" 

The answer was right there in the very passage he used.
It is in Hebrews 7, and the verse says:

 Heb. 7:18 For there is a disannulling of a foregoing commandment because of its weakness and un-profitableness.
WHAT  WAS THE "FOREGOING COMMANDMENT” only a few verses before?

7:5  And they indeed of the sons of Levi that receive the priest's office have commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law

That was where tithes were zeroed out. And he never responded.

I went on to ask how many verses can prove that any of Christ's apostles ever commanded monetary tithes from income, wages, or sales?  

Again, ZERO! 

This is why every pastor should repent of this false doctrine and teach people giving by the Holy Spirit and not a law.  ESPECIALLY to the needs of others.

Here is another truth: we are not to add, twist, or diminish from what the apostles wrote, as they delivered the New Covenant. 

A Covenant is a legal document, a contract, and contains the wishes and directives of the Testator. –That is His Will.

And regarding those monetary tithes, they are not established in either Testament as God's commandment, and they are not included in any form in Christ's Testament. If anyone here has a will, you know it gives your directives to those that will inherit your promises. 

It will stand in court if challenged as it has your expressed terms and conditions for your heirs because you are writing what you want done for your loved ones.

Heb. 9:15... And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament ..

As Testator, Christ never directed the apostles who wrote His Testament to take any form of tithes from anyone and never gave command for his apostles and ministers to take them.

Monetary tithes are therefore *illegal* when imposed on New Testament saints. The New Testament has NO WITNESSES for them. If tithing on income, sales, or wages was apostolic doctrine, has anyone considered none of the apostles commanded, taught, or testified of 10% tithes even once?

In Acts people worked, gave, sold property, and ministered. Where did the disciples in Acts tithe or get them from others?

Pastors are NOT Levite priests and pastors do not have any command to take a dime of tithes from anyone. When God wanted the Levites to get the tithes from the land, it was written for them to get them. But ministers do not have any scripture authority to take any form of tithes from anyone.

Does this resonate? Titus 1:11  Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.

Here is the percentage Jesus required, see if 10% was His standard:
Luke 14: 33 So therefore whosoever he be of you that does not renounce (i.e. disavows) *** all***  that he has, he cannot be my disciple. ..

There it is my brethren, disavowing ownership of 100% is the measure Jesus gave, and if we do not do THAT, (and it includes our mind and religion) we cannot be HIS disciple...
Let’s seek to be His disciple and no longer a follower of men, creeds, and "Doctrinal Statements of Faith".

The choice is yours. Renounce "all" and become HIS disciple and you won't be looking to man for teaching, you will become a steward of the Lord's goods when you give "ALL".

 Jesus is returning to his temple and chasing out the money changers. 
The changing of an Old Covenant agricultural law and a one time event from Abram’s life into New Testament doctrine is tantamount to "transubstantiation", the RCC doctrine that teaches the cracker and wine are changed into the literal body and blood of Christ in the Catholic Mass.

Changing the lawful tithe into a money tithe from income and calling it an act of worship is extortion when the tithe is subject to:

“a disannulling of a foregoing commandment because of its weakness and un-profitableness. “

Book THE TITHE THAT BINDS, by brother Rory

THE TITHE THAT BINDS 





find out the truth. Is pastor right or wrong? What does the scripture REALLY teach about those tithes?
For a digest of tithing truths: A synopsis here:  70 Reasons Tithing is not for Christians.

See this article for a digest of    70 Reasons Tithing is FLAT WRONG.

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Tithing in the Book Of ACTS

Tithing in the Book Of ACTS
-rory moore

The Acts of the apostles. Of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
…And a question of tithing.

Acts is unique in the books of the New Testament. The church was formed as the Holy Spirit was given and the New Covenant confirmed. The disciples and apostles received power and authority through Jesus Christ. The New Covenant became of force and the original disciples of Christ began to minister, teach, baptize, heal, assemble, and spread the gospel.  Acts is the record and details of the "real deal", God gave for us to see and do likewise.

Tithing is commonly taught in modern Christianity. Let's see what we can or cannot find in the Book of Acts in places where there may have been an opportunity to demonstrate or teach the disciples to give 10% of their income. We will use ACTS as a magnifying glass to test the tithe doctrine.

Acts 2:44-45 and they sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all, according as any man had need. -Why were there no tithes upon the sale of possessions and goods here?

Acts 4: 34 For neither was there among them any that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
-there is nothing on tithing from the sale prices here either, is there?

Acts 5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
           2 ) and kept back part of the price, his wife also privy to it, and brought ==> a certain part <==
                and laid it at the apostles` feet.
...Nothing  is said about them withholding tithes. But maybe he only gave "a certain part", such as a 10% tithe?
We do not know, but if he was under a 10% “standard”as today, they may tithed 10% which could be the “certain PART” they gave. But many pastors teach tithing 10% on the increase of things sold in today's church world.

Acts 6:1
Now in these days, when the number of the disciples was multiplying, there arose a murmuring of the Grecian Jews against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration.
... In the daily "ministration", nothing about tithes there either but under the law food tithes were given for widows from the priests.

Acts 8:18
Now when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles` hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money
... no tithe was mentioned.. -but today many might not pass up the offer of Simon!

Acts 8:20 But Peter said unto him, Thy silver perish with thee, because thou hast thought to obtain the gift of God with money.
… no blessing from tithing silver money is mentioned.
Simon was rebuked for thinking he could buy the blessing with money. Nor did Peter correct him saying "just your tithes are fine".


Acts 9:36 Now there was at Joppa a certain disciple named Tabitha, which by interpretation is called Dorcas: this woman was full of good works and alms-deeds which she did.
... Dorcas was known for faithful "alms" giving, not tithes.
"Alms" are compassionate giving.

Acts 10:2
a devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, who gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God always.
.. Devout Cornelius did not tithe. He "gave much alms" to “the people”, not religious leaders.


Acts 11:29
And the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send ===> relief to the brethren that dwelt in Judea:
.. they sent them“relief”, not "sent tithes"..

Acts 14:23 And when they had appointed for them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they had believed.
… elders were appointed over churches. There were no tithes ordered to support them with.

Acts 15. 5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees who believed, saying,
   It is needful to circumcise them, ===> and to charge them to keep the law of Moses. <===
.. The church, elders, apostles and Holy Ghost release Christians from the law. 
They did not "decree" tithing.
People had been teaching the law of Moses to Christians. (15:4)
Tithing was "of the matters of the law" -Jesus said in Mat. 23:23

Acts 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us,
                    to lay upon you ===> no greater burden <===than these necessary things:
29  that ye abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled,
      and from fornication; from which if ye keep yourselves, it shall be well with you.
… The Holy Spirit and the apostles did not include tithing as a "necessary thing".

Acts 16:4 And as they went on their way through the cities, they delivered them the decrees to keep which had been ordained of the apostles and elders that were at Jerusalem.
… Apostolic decrees were delivered confirming the churches, but no tithing decreed and none of the apostolic epistles to the churches decree tithing

Acts 16: 15   And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, if ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord
… Lydia, a sellor of purple was judged faithful. She was not told to tithe or commended for paying them.

Acts 18: 3 and because he was of the same trade, he stayed with them, and they worked, for by their trade they were tentmakers.
 Paul and Aquila do not pay tithes on earnings from their trade. Paul and Aquila were tent makers who never paid money tithes under the OT law. 

Acts 19:1 while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul ... came to Ephesus, and found certain disciples
             10 And this continued for the space of two years
…Paul  ministered in Ephesus three years. But he made no mention of tithing from income in chapter 19, nor did he receive tithes.

Acts 20: 7  And upon the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul discoursed with them….. and prolonged his speech until midnight.
… Paul and Luke were in Troas 7 days but on the first day of the week no tithes were gathered nor an offering mentioned.

Acts 20:17 And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called to him the elders of the church.
… where he does not tell them to tithe or receive them from others.

Acts 20:27 For I shrank not from declaring unto you the whole counsel of God.
…the “whole counsel of God” he declared does not mention tithes from income. He also wrote the Ephesian epistle and never ordained tithing in that church letter.

Acts 20:28 Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock,
   in which the Holy Spirit hath made you bishops, to feed the church of the Lord
… “elders” are called “bishops” and instructed to “feed the flock of God”, not feed themselves from them.

Acts 20: 31 Wherefore watch ye, remembering that by the space of three years I ceased not to admonish every one…
… Paul remembers his ministry for three years. he never thanked them for tithes or mentioned any of his own. Three years and nothing about tithing? -Nor did he write of tithing in the Ephesian epistle.

Acts 20: 33 I coveted no man`s silver, or gold, or apparel.
… Paul did not covet their money, a salary, or benefits. He did not request offerings and he did not instruct tithes.

Acts 20: 34  Ye yourselves know that these hands ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.
… Paul used “these hands", his own hands, to minister to his own needs and others through working.

Acts 20: 35  I gave you an example, that laboring like me,  ye ought to help the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that he himself said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
…Paul told the bishops to work as Paul did, and help weak. He did not tell them to live from tithes. -He did not give them an example to tithe. He did not tell them to tell the church to tithe.

Acts 21: 25   But as touching the Gentiles that have believed, we wrote, giving judgment that they should keep themselves from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what is strangled, and from fornication.
… The letter from the church at Jerusalem included Paul, James, Peter, Luke, and other elders. But there was no reminder to  pay tithes to churches. They did not mention tithing from income.

Acts 22: 3 I am a Jew, born in Tarsus of Cilicia, … instructed according to the strict manner of the law of our fathers, being zealous for God
… Paul gave testimony as a former strict law observer. He does not mention tithing, even though he was a tent maker, earned wages, and was zealous for the law.

Acts 23: 1 And Paul, looking stedfastly on the council, said,
                   Brethren, I have lived before God in all good conscience until this day.
… Paul lived in good conscience, yet never mentioning tithing. People today are put under a guilty conscience from the perverted use of Malachi 3.

Acts 24: 17 Now after some years I came to bring alms to my nation, and offerings:
               18 among which they found me purified in the temple
… Paul brought alms and offerings. Not tithes from income. And  it says he was “purified”. He was purified without tithing!
Acts 24:17 Now after some years I came to bring alms to my nation, and offerings:
 -Paul brought “alms” not "tithes".
“offerings” were not money according to the Law. http://preparinghisway.blogspot.com/2011/02/tithes-and-offerings-in-malachi.html

Acts 26: 20   but declared both to them of Damascus first and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the country of Judaea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God,
doing works worthy of repentance.
…”works worthy of repentance” never mentioned tithing from earned income or the lawful  Jewish tithe.

Acts 28: 10 who also honored us with many honors; and when we sailed, they put on board such things as we needed.
…  Paul and Luke were honored. But no tithes reported. Their "needs" were met as Jesus promised in Matthew 10.

Acts 28: 30 And he abode two whole years in his own hired dwelling, and received all that went in unto him,
              31  preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching the things concerning the Lord Jesus Christ with all boldness, none forbidding him.
… Paul did not remind anyone to bring tithes. Never in Acts and not once in all his writings. He mentioned his *needs* in  Phillipians 4:16  for even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again to my need, and he was in prison when he wrote that. Many preachers will remind the people to send tithes to their ministry today, but none of the apostles ever did.

Now isn’t it of interest that in these 30 passages from the Book of the Acts , not once is tithing mentioned for the saints or churches to observe?  

WHO is MYSTERY BABYLON? A short word.

 Babylon that mighty city..........
-rory moore

In the Bible, in the Book of Revelation, is an entity called "BABYLON" is focused on, especially in chapters 17 and 18.

Although many mistakenly refer to Babylon as the Vatican and the Roman church, it is far greater than that narrow definition. It was once a City-State, and an ancient empire that conquered Israel around 600 BC.
Let's expand our concept of who is "Mystery Babylon the great..."
Without making this too deep or complex, and apply to Babylon the nature and manner to exercise authority and power.

Understanding Who Babylon Is :

(hint 1: Money. 

 it is an economic system based on buying-selling-borrowing. Banking, business, commerce, advertising.

(hint 2:  Politics.

it is a political and governmental system rooted in patriotism, violent force, military conquest, and taking from others through forceful taxation, force of arms, and the non-just legal system.

(hint 3: Religion.

 it is the MYSTERY RELIGIOUS SYSTEMS of the world, satanically engineered for confusion, competition, clergy-ism, division, conflict, pomp and ceremony, showmanship, rituals, that operates through worldly hierarchy's and structures never given in God's Word.

(hint 4: Culture.
Driven by movies, entertainment, music, and celebrity,  it is the social culture that distracts, entertains, appeals to our carnal senses, and uses all means to divert our attention away from the Lord.

(hint 5: Medicine.

The medical system: “pharmakeia". Drug-based treating of most afflictions predicted by scripture. Controlled by organizations like the FDA, AMA, CDC and many others to impose vaxxes, control physicians, in order to shut out alternative and natural healing methods.

(hint 6. Law.

The legal system which pervert true justice and is run by corrupt people, unjust laws, lawlessness.

(hint 7. Military Force.
The world's military to use force to conquer, subjugate, use terror, mass murder, and financial plunder.

Revelation 14:8 And a second angel, followed, saying,
Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, that has made all the nations to drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication (spiritual, economic, social, medical, political, legal, military).

One thing that is astonishing about the above is the number of that certain group of people who claim to be Judaens are found at the top levels of each of those.

The Nicolaitane (CLERGY-Laity) Error Jesus Hates (was not Santa Claus)

Overcoming The End-Time Nicolaitanes

-by Rory Moore

"neither as lords over God's heritage" -1Peter 3
The time has arrived in saving people from the CLERGY over the LAITY Church SYSTEM.

Disclaimer: 
At times it may sound as if I am anti-pastor. This is not so. We love the pastors whom God has graciously put in our lives. The truth is aimed at the harlot system and her institutions,
and NOT at any individual that is trapped by the error of the Nicolaitanes.

• "But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitanes".
  VERY few Christians "hate" this, and if one cannot recognize the Nicolaitane error then one cannot "hate it"  (i.e., despise it).
• We do not "hate" the people snared in the Nicolaitane error. Jesus calls us to love when disagree. 

Revelation 2: (To the church at Ephesus)
6   But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate;
15 So you also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes,     which I hate.
16 Repent; or else I will come to you quickly, and will fight against them (the Nicolaitanes) with the sword of my mouth.

You cannot repent of this unless you know what it is and why Jesus hates it!

Here is truth:
Christ detests the formal, organized  (usually 501c3 incorporated) church government found in almost every church and denomination.  The Clergy over laity churches because it puts man in the place of God.

"Nicolaitane" is from two Greek words "Nike" and "Laos"

The Greek word "nike" means "to conquer"…to dominate, intimidate, CONTROL, rule over, even to manipulate.

It means exercising carnal control. It means ruling by position, dominion, subjugation, and taking authority by these means. 

The word "laos" means "the people", that is, the laity.
Hence,  "nike-laity", i.e. "Nico-laitane" error.

Thus we have by definition the deeds and teaching of those who conquer, dominate, manipulate, and "lead" the laity, or the people.

Why does Jesus "HATE" their deeds and doctrines?

Simply put, it is because it puts men in the place of God, seating them in the temple of God.
-whether they be called the church board, Elder, Senior Pastor, priest, Pope, Bishop, or some other ecclesiastical title.

 And it virtually guarantees the majority of God's people never mature into faith and their own ministry as Jesus.

Denominational, factious, competitive Christianity has given the church a hierarchical, professionalized, titled, system of church clergy organizing offering "strange fire". 

Now Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took their respective firepans, and after putting fire in them, placed incense on it and offered strange fire before the Lord, which He had not commanded them.

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o   WHY is no Senior Pastor, Youth Leader, Choir Director, pope, cardinal, Archbishop, priest, monsignor, or denominational structure found in scripture?

o   WHY no scripture giving any Pastor-Priest sole ruler-ship, headship, or sole authority over an assembly of God's people?

o   WHY were no formal titles or labels attached to any New Testament disciples including the obvious ones like the apostles?

o   WHY are no church boards, assistant pastors, co-pastors, associate pastors, or senior church officials in scripture?

The simple truth is because Jesus taught His disciples not to do those things.

Overcoming the Nicolaitane error and deeds

In Revelation 2, the people of God who have eyes and ears to overcome are told:
15-17: So have you also some that hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans in like manner.
 Repent therefore;
or else I come to you quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of my mouth.
 He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
 To him that overcomes will I give of *the hidden manna....

Serious words I never heard in church, never discussed or considered. Mysterious.
Yet strong admonitions are given in scripture in regard to what Jesus said was the relationship among the brethren and how actual church should function (like family and not am institution).

What Peter said in 1Peter 5:

1 The elders among you I exhort, who am a fellow-elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, who am also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:

2 Tend the flock of God which is among you, exercising the oversight, not of constraint, but willingly, according to the will of God; nor yet for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;

3 neither as lording it over the charge allotted to you, but making yourselves examples to the flock.

In this passage, note elderS (plural) are among us, Peter includes himself as an elder, and no mention of "pastors".

Why not?
Connect the dots friends.
-God gave a five headship ministries to oversee and serve God's people. Apostles, prophets, evangelists, teachers, pastors. Co-equal brethren, elders, men. (my post regarding qualifications to oversee)

-neither ...  means  "  not even, no, not once".

-as lording: means: "to lord against, that is, control, subjugate: - exercise dominion over (lordship), be lord over, overcome."

Yet this is exactly what the Nicolaitane error does and Peter said not even once was the flock to be carnally subjugated, controlled, or have someone exercise dominion over.

As the Christian sees the truth of scripture, he will need to simply repent and realign his thinking in terms of what the New Testament ministry truly is, not from what we have seen all around us.

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ;

The ministry is given to serve, edify, and steward the faith. Those who minister are to comfort, correct, and contend for the faith.
The faith they are to contend for is THE faith as it is written (not the fragmented, conflicted, sectarian mish-mash of faith found in the church world).

Friends, Jesus gave, taught, and lived THE faith to His disciples, who in turn gave the same gospel and the same faith to the churches they established. 

Many pastors compare their ministry to Moses who led the people of God to the "Promised Land" with the idea that there must be a leader-centered administration of a church body.
But that is not a model found in the New Testament because we have Christ and the Holy Spirit given to direct an assembly if they are Spirit-filled and Spirit led. Most churches simply fall back into the traditions of men in their structure.

And the 501c3 Incorporation so common to church groups legally places Caesar above Christ.

You see, when the Nicolaitanes imposed their error and deeds upon the church, the pastor-priest became the preeminent personage.
T'was never meant to be and there is not one positive New Testament example of that.

Who gave the pastor-priest preeminence over the rest of the five-fold ministry and the false hierarchial system of "accountability"?

It was the work of the Nicolaitane clergy. 
As many of us finally realize, this is the most common form of church government around us. .

How do you "overcome" the clergy-laity Nicolaitanes?

Love them but Renounce and resign from all official memberships.
Ask God to take their error and deeds out of your heart.
Then pray to assemble with others.

If these steps are not done, or the deeds and error of the Nicolaitanes not spoken out in the church, then excuses, justifications, and having faith with "respect of persons" (see James 2:1) will keep you within the body of the harlot church system.  -and the cycle of church to church will continue.

James 2:1 NCV

My dear brothers and sisters, as believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ,
never think some people are more important than others.

*the hidden manna....: is the Truth revealed by the Holy Spirit. The "hidden manna" revelation of what the Nicolaitane deeds and error in this post was revealed to me by the Holy Spirit.

My prayer is others will see this and take it to heart. People will rise or fall with the Clergy church system. They will  walk in Light or darkness, be deceived or be delivered. 


Study References:
James 2:1
Matthew 23
Matthew 20: 21-27
1 Peter 5:1-5
Revelation 2:1-20
Acts 20:17-35