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A place to help people to find understanding why church tradition and experience is often quite different from the simplicity of the New Testament. Is the phrase "go to church" ever stated in scripture? What about Titles and building-centered assembly? What is a 501c3 church? These are examples of practices needing examination and we hope will provoke thought and prayer among those the Lord is stirring and calling to a deeper consecration, and we want to encourage you to "hear ye HIM".
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Monday, September 11, 2023
Deconstructing Church part 7 The Business of Church and 501c3 Incorporation
Saturday, September 2, 2023
Failed Dates and Leavened in God's Bread
Have you ever read a verse and thought HOW DID WE MISS THIS???"
Consider Luke 21.
Luke 21:8 J.B. Phillips New Testament
“Be careful that you are not deceived,” he replied.
“There will be many coming in my name, saying ‘I am he’ (confessing Jesus is Lord) and ‘The time is very near now.’ Never follow men like that...... "
.....Luke 21:8 (NIV)
He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them.
And in the Numeric ASV: and He said see you be not led astray, for many shall come in my name saying "I am He"; and "the season is near", GO NOT AFTER THEM.
Christ-confessing ministers saying the time is at hand, the season is near, ARE right now, leading many astray with false words that feed "hopium". (hop-ee-um, i.e. unrealistic hopes)
The FIRST warning Jesus gave regarding the end times was the SIGN that many would lead astray, ---> and that it would be those saying "the TIME is at hand".
“There will be many coming in my name, saying ‘I am he’ and ‘The time is very near now.’ ---> Never follow men like that......
- NO predicted earthquakes hit, and the ones that came were missed.
- NO special "anointing of the manchild" came in September or October 2011 to ddate.
- NO Comet Elenin disasters or even becoming visible
- NO appearing of Planet X
- NO, the New Madrid did not split open and isolate an ark-shaped refuge in which the "anointed" people
could take the abandoned property of fleeing residents..
-no pre-trib rapture in any of the 2023 and newer dates.
- NO, the 11-11-11 Hoover Dam terrorist destruction missed (via a YouTube prophet)
- multiple eclipses accompanied by fear and preparations.
- ALAS! even the Great Pumpkin did not arrive for Halloween as Linus, the cartoon series character in "Peanuts' hoped for every year ....
But a pattern of failed dates, dreams, and disasters are exactly what we are told would be an end-time sign!
Did He really mean it and does it apply to the date-setting prophecy teacher?
“There will be many coming in my name, saying ‘I am he’ and ‘The time is very near now.’ ---> Never follow men like that......
If they predict dates, confirmed by dreams or whatever they are leading us astray, no disciple in the New Testament dangled dates and disasters as a lure for followers.
Acts 1:7 And he said unto them, ---> It is not for you to know times or seasons, which the Father hath set within His own authority.
We need to repent of the lust to know and/or have special end-time knowledge...
We too can fall into a "working of error", a strong delusion.... because no man is exempt from deception.
The truth here is Jesus does not want us following date-setting people no matter how much Christ they confess and teach.
The second truth is He does not want our minds and spirits POLLUTED by fear. Beware of constant mind-control and manipulation by pointing us toward their particular vision or philosophy, by those seeking a following.
Call him apostle, pastor, watchman, or rabbi and we lean on and follow his revelation, there is idolatry and our mind will be veiled from truth.
The Lord, by His grace, has granted us repentance and deliverance from the error that had us bound.
We can now rest in His promises concerning end time events. There is never going to be a pre-trib rapture and every date for it will fail as have countless others.
Friday, September 1, 2023
A Mystery Revealed: The Hidden Manna, a White Stone, a New Name?
-by rory moore
In Revelation chapters 2 and 3, I would share as the Lord grants understanding of the hidden manna found in this scripture passage. The Lord has hidden many wonderful secrets within His Word and He said they are revealed to us.
I puzzled for many years by some of the sayings to the churches but the mysterious language of the Revelation is not a mystery to God who gave it.
The passage in Revelation 2 that follows baffled me for many years. Then one day the Lord opened my understanding of...
To him that overcomes, to him will I give of the hidden manna,
and I will give him a white stone,
and on the stone a new name written,
which no one knows except he that receives it.
What the Spirit says:
is revealed by Holy Spirit-taught revelation. So Jesus said in
John 14:26 "But the Comforter, even the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things"
and
1Jn2:27 And as for you, the anointing which you received of him abides in you,
and you do not need that any one teach you; but as his anointing teaches you
concerning all, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you....
Well that's a promise for you!
But Spiritual truths are hidden from eyes and understanding veiled by the church teachings.
The religious leadership of Jesus' day were declared as spiritually blind by the Lord, and so were those who put their trust in them. It is no different today.
So He spoke to them in parables but to His disciples He said this in Matthew 16:17
And Jesus answered and said to him, Blessed are you, Simon (Peter):
for flesh and blood has not revealed it to you, but my Father who is in heaven.
-Accurate revelation will always agree and be witnessed by the scriptures in multiple places.
The KEY.
"To him that overcomes..."
What must they "overcome" to eat of the "hidden manna", i.e. the hidden Word of Truth?
Within the passage itself is the answer and according to other passages such as Rev. 18:4, God's people must separate from the harlot system that calls itself Christian and is headed by "false apostles" (i.e. "messengers"), which in the previous verses are referred to as "the Nicolaitane error". -the clergy system that rules over God's people)
That is the false church hierarchy structure. It is the clergy headship over God's people.
-and the the Balaam ministry which sells its' ministry services as Balaam did.
This was shown in previous verses in Revelation 2: 2,6,14 , and other places such as 2 Peter 3:2-3 and in Jude.
In our day it is especially the 501c3 churches that "married" Caesar. It is antichrist.
We overcome the ministry of the Nicolaitanes (clergy over laity), and Jezebel, i.e., the manipulating-controlling-dominating leadership that asserts carnal authority over God's people as did the pharisees and clergy of Jesus' day through Titles, and mans devices as Jesus said.
As we overcome the typical church doctrines, creeds, statements of faith, and clergy-built belief systems of our fathers traditions, God will open our eyes to behold "what the Spirit says to the congregations".
As long as we look at scripture through "lenses" of tradition learned in church, our spiritual vision will be obscured.
We exhort you to take those religious glasses off and pray a Luke 14:33 prayer..
As you overcome the Nicolaitane error and doctrine Jesus "hates", you are on your way to understanding God's Word as the Holy Spirit teaches.
As Paul wrote in Galatians 1:12 For neither did I receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came to me through revelation of Jesus Christ.
Paul did not go to church. He went to God in prayer and study.
A personal example was my own question about "the deeds of the Nicolaitanes which I hate" in Rev. 2:6.
For 25 years I always wondered what that was.
After all, if Jesus "hated" it, I certainly did not want to be doing that!
But what was it?
Suddenly the Lord imparted understanding and I saw it revealed and the Nicolaitanes were all through the scriptures! One word best says it. "Clergy". Another word is a man "king".
They were the ones who persecuted Jesus.
King Saul was an early prototype. (leaders being elevated).
Diotrephes in 3John was one
Paul warned of them in Acts 20:33-35.
It all became clear the most common form of church government is the Nicolaitane error.
Jesus is not the denominational, sectarian church version presented by titled church officials like "Reverend", "Pastor", "Apostle", "Rabbi", and a dozen other titles worn by men and women in the church system, collectively known as "the Clergy" which rules the laity (people).
What does that "hidden manna" reveal?
Jesus said they would receive a "white stone".
This is the simplicity of Christ Jesus of the scripture.
"The Stone that the builders rejected who is become the Head of the corner". Acts 4:11
This is the stone which was set at nought of you (the apostate) builders, which is become the head of the corner."
-set aside by the builders then, and now, who substitute their version of Jesus as they built their churches, organizations, and personal ministries within Nicolaitane-run churches.
The "white stone" is the revelation of Jesus, and not what most of Christianity superimposes over God's Word. The revelation given to Peter in Matthew 16:18.
How can we say that? As you look at the "Not In Scripture List" on our web page, you will see many examples.
a NEW name written:
The "new name written" was there all the time; it was veiled by religion.
It is the "new (especially in freshness" Jesus (the white stone) of the "hidden manna" of the Word of God "that which is written". -in the scriptures.
Can "another Jesus slip in through the church door?
2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that comes preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached.
Not every "Jesus" preached is The "White Stone" Jesus that Paul preached and the writer John knew!
Every sect an denomination presents Jesus as they see Him.
Believe it or not, none of these are in scripture.
Shocked?
Then please see "This Jesus" that was preached by His disciples in Acts.
"which no one *knows but he that receives it"
As we "renounce all that you have" in order to become HIS disciple, as Jesus taught in Luke 14:33, it even includes our church doctrine.
This is how we empty of ourselves in surrendering "all that we have" and believe in order for the Lord to renew our minds in His Word.
Every formula, every man made list, creed, and statement no matter how seemingly important. And yes, it takes time to allow God to purge out of us the "seed" (words) of men.. And yes, I still find this action of the Holy Spirit working in me.
Leaders will always make excuses for their religious traditions as Jesus said in Mark 7:8
You leave the commandment of God, and hold fast the tradition of men.
Revelation is to recognize the Pure Jesus of the Hidden Manna after overcoming the Nicolaitane error and the preach-for-reward ministry!
"Knowing" the "new name", is as Peter received by revelation by the Spirit of God, as it is not found in repeating the syllables "Jesus" or a variant.
*knoweth: (G1097
A prolonged primary verb; to "know" (absolutely), in a great variety of applications and with many implications, with others not thus clearly expressed): perceive, be resolved, be sure, understand.)
Now that you know, here is the passage in Revelation:
11 He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
He that overcomes shall not be hurt of the second death.
12 and to the angel of the church in Pergamum write
These things says he that hath the sharp two-edged sword:
13 I know where you dwell, even where Satan`s throne is (satan rules in the heart of the natural, carnal-minded man) and thou hold fast my name,
and did not deny my faith, even in the days of Antipas my witness, my faithful one,
who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.
14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there some that hold
the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to cast a stumbling-block
before the children of Israel,
to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit fornication.
15 So have you also some that hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans in like manner.
16 Repent therefore; or else I come to thee quickly, and I will make war against them
with the sword of my mouth.
17 He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
To him that overcomes, to him will I give of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, and upon the stone a new name written, which no one knows but he that receives it.
Friday, September 23, 2022
WHO is MYSTERY BABYLON? A short word.
Babylon that mighty city..........
-rory moore

In the Bible, in the Book of Revelation, is an entity called "BABYLON" is focused on, especially in chapters 17 and 18.
Although many mistakenly refer to Babylon as the Vatican and the Roman church, it is far greater than that narrow definition. It was once a City-State, and an ancient empire that conquered Israel around 600 BC.
Let's expand our concept of who is "Mystery Babylon the great..."
Without making this too deep or complex, and apply to Babylon the nature and manner to exercise authority and power.
Understanding Who Babylon Is :
(hint 1: Money.
it is an economic system based on buying-selling-borrowing. Banking, business, commerce, advertising.
(hint 2: Politics.
it is a political and governmental system rooted in patriotism, violent force, military conquest, and taking from others through forceful taxation, force of arms, and the non-just legal system.
(hint 3: Religion.
it is the MYSTERY RELIGIOUS SYSTEMS of the world, satanically engineered for confusion, competition, clergy-ism, division, conflict, pomp and ceremony, showmanship, rituals, that operates through worldly hierarchy's and structures never given in God's Word.
(hint 4: Culture.
Driven by movies, entertainment, music, and celebrity, it is the social culture that distracts, entertains, appeals to our carnal senses, and uses all means to divert our attention away from the Lord.
(hint 5: Medicine.
The medical system: “pharmakeia". Drug-based treating of most afflictions predicted by scripture. Controlled by organizations like the FDA, AMA, CDC and many others to impose vaxxes, control physicians, in order to shut out alternative and natural healing methods.
(hint 6. Law.
The legal system which pervert true justice and is run by corrupt people, unjust laws, lawlessness.
(hint 7. Military Force.
The world's military to use force to conquer, subjugate, use terror, mass murder, and financial plunder.
Revelation 14:8 And a second angel, followed, saying,
Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, that has made all the nations to drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication (spiritual, economic, social, medical, political, legal, military).
One thing that is astonishing about the above is the number of that certain group of people who claim to be Judaens are found at the top levels of each of those.
Monday, September 10, 2012
Jesus Reveals a Last Days Rapture Revelation
Let's consider how Jesus experienced the tribulation as an example and pattern for what would follow during the latter day great tribulation?
If you are familiar with the Bible, this may take on more meaning as God's historical cycles repeat..
Jesus' own personal week of tribulation shows us when He will gather His Saints, and the week of Jesus' Tribulation week began as He returned to Jerusalem to keep the third Passover in His ministry.
will show us the coming tribulation and the "rapture". (I use the word "rapture" as is commonly spoken of in churches, but the word "rapture" is not given in scripture, but is more accurately "our gathering unto Him", and a "catching away". )
After 3 years of ministry, Jesus went up to Jerusalem to keep the mandatory Passover Week, aka the "Feast of Unleavened Bread". (Lev. 23:5)
Like the lamb of Passover (Ex. 12:5), Jesus would also be examined offer Himself as the sacrificial Lamb, and he was tested by the leaders and later, the Roman governor as they questioned him in Matthew 23 by the chief priests, Pharisees, and Sadducees.
A reading of Exodus 12 gives the command and ordinances of the Passover given to Israel as they departed from Egypt. It was also the prototype or the pre-figuring of Christ.
So on the first day of the week, our Sunday, Jesus entered Jerusalem on a donkey, to the acclaim of crowds. He went to the temple and again drove out the money changers.
In doing so, He was examined for spot and blemish by the priests who tried to find fault with him. -Which was according to a "type and shadow" fulfillment of Exodus 12 regarding the offering of the Passover lamb as required by the Old Testament law.
He, being found without any leaven as the Living Bread, was also the lamb without any blemish of sin. "Which of you convicts me of sin?" -and none could.
In tribulation the two witness are sent forth and prophesy for 3.5 years.
a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
:4 These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks, standing before the
Lord of the earth .
a.
As a parable and foreshadowing two times of Him coming INTO His temple as a life-
giving Spirit, to those who are "watching and praying":
He will again cast out the modern "money-changers" those who are in the NT temple (.i.e the body of Christ> plundering and merchandising God's people by exchanging the freely given gospel for the reward of a hireling.
and the Lord, whom ye seek, will suddenly come to his temple.
(again, a dual prophecy)
He will come forth IN His people before He comes FOR His church. -As He did in Acts 2. "and SUDDENLY there came a sound..." as Jesus came INTO His Temple (His people) as the Life-giving Spirit.
The week Jesus was tribulated began with his acceptance into Jerusalem on a donkey. He came humbly, without flags, without an army, without pompous robes, without a gold chariot.
In the beginning of the 7 year time of "great tribulation", Jesus Spiritually comes again without fanfare, without stage lights, without notice to many of the saints in "New Jerusalem", nevertheless He is a growing presence.
To those that thirst, He will come in the form of the "latter rain" and anoints His witnesses and disciples..
This is the sudden fulfillment as He comes forth IN His people at the appointed time.
Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how you have received and did hear; and keep it, and repent.
If therefore you will not watch, I will come as a thief, and you shall not know what hour I will come upon you.
-1Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.
Jeremiah 5:24...Let us now fear the LORD our God, that gives rain,
both the former and the latter, in its season; that preserves to us the appointed weeks of the harvest.
When the "70th week" begins, Christ's disciples also begin to spiritually "keep" the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
The saints MUST feast on the Word alone as Jesus is the WORD of God, and He is the bread come down from heaven".
John 6: 35 Jesus said unto them. I am the bread of life:
he that comes to me shall not hunger, and he that believes on me shall never thirst.)
Please also see http://www.preparehisway.com/it_s_not_scripture_.html
and there shall no leavened bread seen, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee....
:8 And you shall tell thy son in that day, saying, It is because of that which The LORD did for me when I came forth out of Egypt.
Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to the Lord."
see Ex. 13:6-7, Lev.23:6, Deut 16:3-4.
In order to separate His people from the body of the harlot church and the world, those that abide in the ark of Christ, i.e. His Word, the real disciples of Jesus will partake of His Word without the leaven of tradition, sin, church law, and fear of human church government.
After two days will he revive us: on the third day he will raise us up,
and we shall live before him. ... to know the LORD: his going forth is sure as the morning;
and he will come to us as the rain, as the latter rain that waters the earth.
For three and a half years, Jesus powerfully manifests Himself in a corporate body (His "temple") as the two witnesses, while His disciples do signs and miracles.
-Just as it was in Acts, for those that made themselves ready.
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house (the temple building and unregenerated Israel) is left to you desolate.
-the abomination that makes desolate.
Rev. 14: 9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a great voice,
If any man worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on
his forehead, or upon his hand
:10 he also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God
This is where it becomes extremely interesting!
Luke 22:7 And the day came, on which the Passover must be sacrificed.
The second 3.5 days of Jesus "week" begins His great tribulation:
It began in the garden:
Mat 26:37..he took the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and sore troubled.
Luke 22:3 And Satan entered into Judas (the spirit of antichrist entered Judas ), and was revealed:
Likewise in the midst of the 7 tribulation years, comes the abomination of desolation as the anti-christ body of people is also revealed.
At that time, the spirit of antichrist hidden in a body of professing Christians turns against the true disciples. "and brother shall betray brother..."
Mark 13:12 And brother shall deliver up brother to death.
Matthew 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another,
and shall hate one another.
and with him a multitude with swords and clubs,
from the chief priests and the scribes and the elders.
and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.
Matt 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another,
and shall hate one another...
Mark 14:50 And they all left him, and fled.
Here is where "He who restrains will be taken out of the way"
prepared of God, that there they may nourish her a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (3.5 years)
20 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on a sabbath:
21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as has not been from the
beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be (see Dan. 12:1)
Mat 27:2 and they bound him, and led him away, and delivered him up
to Pilate the governor.
Luke 23:7 And when he knew that he was of Herod's jurisdiction,
he sent him unto Herod,-Herod was the Roman "beast kingdom" governor.
(the two witnesses are two identifiable groups of people, called the two olive trees. We develop this in another post)
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that cometh up
out of the abyss shall make war with them, and overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman (the harlot of Christianity) drunken with the blood of the saints,
and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.
Revelation 11: And after the three days and a half (3.5 years) the breath of life from God
entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them that beheld them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them,
Come up hither. And they went up into heaven in the cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
9. When Jesus had finished His ministry, the "beast" put Him to death.
Many go into captivity.
Rev 13:10 If any man is for captivity, into captivity he goeth:
if any man shall kill with the sword, with the sword must he be killed.
Here is the patience and the faith of the saints
or that is worshipped; so that he sits in *the temple of God,
setting himself forth as God.
come first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
Matthew 24:15 When therefore ye see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let him that reads understand).
What is there to understand? Is it that the temple is not made with hands out of stone?
21 in whom each several building, fitly framed together,
grows into a holy temple in the Lord;
This and many other scriptures demonstrate that there is ONE body of Christ, one church, in which there is neither Jew nor Greek. In other words, there will be no division from a gentile church being raptured so God can turn back to the Jew.
And both of these groups form the "holy temple" in the Lord. These are the "two olive trees".
10. When Jesus was arrested, the disciples fled.
fulfilled. then all the disciples left him, and fled.
The scattered saints go into 3.5 years of Great Tribulation.
who spoke, How long shall be the vision concerning the continual burnt-offering,
and the transgression that makes desolate, to give both
the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
the saints of the Most High; and he shall think to change the times and the
law; and they shall be given into his hand until a
time and times and half a time.
might fly into the wilderness unto her place, where she is nourished for *a time, and
times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be
Jonah 3:2 Out of the belly of Sheol cried I, And thou heardest my voice.
Isa. 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou
and they loved not their life even unto death.
testimony unto all the nations; and then shall the end come.
proclaim unto them that dwell on the earth,
and unto every nation and tribe and tongue and people..
their prophecy: and they have power over the waters to turn them
into blood, and to smite the earth with every plague, as often as
they shall desire.
which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.
suffered without the gate.
fellowship with her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues:
Rev 11:8 And their dead body lie in the street of the great city,
which spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord
was crucified.
The two witnesses, which we believe are the "two olive trees" of the church and a remnant of natural Jews grafted back into the tree called "all Israel". As a corporate body, their dead body lies in the streets of the world wide city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.
"Egypt" was a "type" of the world when ancient Israel came out from them 3,600 years ago.
Holy One to see corruption.
neither was he left unto Hades
and I have the keys of death and of Hades.
this is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith.
and because of the word of their testimony; and they loved not their life even unto death.
appearing to them by the space of forty days, and speaking the
things concerning the kingdom of God:
:9 And when he had said these things, as they were looking, he was taken up;
and a cloud received him out of their sight.
After the 7 years and 40 days, the church goes up.
For 3.5 days He ministered in the temple of God..
in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I was praying asking the Lord if the tribulation was shown to us by Jesus in another way besides the obvious prophecies.









