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Friday, September 1, 2023

A Mystery Revealed: The Hidden Manna, a White Stone, a New Name?

Hidden manna? A white stone? a new name?
-by rory moore


In Revelation chapters 2 and 3,  I would share as the Lord grants understanding of the hidden manna found in this scripture passage.  The Lord has hidden many wonderful secrets within His Word and He said they are revealed to us.
"He reveals the deep and secret things"
When a truth is revealed it becomes simple and obvious. 
puzzled for many years by some of the sayings to the churches but the mysterious language of the Revelation is not a mystery to God who gave it

The passage in Revelation 2 that follows baffled me for many years.  Then one day the Lord opened my understanding of...


 Hidden Manna, a White Stone New NAME

Rev. 2: 17   He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
 To him that overcomes, to him will I give of the hidden manna,
and I will give him a white stone,
 and on the stone a new name written,
which no one knows except he that receives it
.
    



What the Spirit says
is revealed by Holy Spirit-taught revelation. So Jesus said in
John 14:26  "But the Comforter, even the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things" 

and 
1Jn2:27  And as for you, the anointing which you received of him abides in you,
               and you do not need that any one teach you; but as his anointing teaches you 
               concerning all, and is true
, and is no lie, and even as it taught you....
Well that's a promise for you!

But Spiritual truths are hidden from eyes and understanding veiled by the church teachings.
The religious leadership of Jesus' day were declared as spiritually blind by the Lord, and so were those who put their trust in them. It is no different today.

So He spoke to them in parables but to His disciples He said this in Matthew 16:17
And Jesus answered and said to him, Blessed are you, Simon (Peter):
for flesh and blood has not revealed it to you, but my Father who is in heaven.

-Accurate revelation will always agree and be witnessed by the scriptures in multiple places.

The KEY.
"To him that overcomes...
"

 What must they "overcome" to eat of the "hidden manna", i.e. the hidden Word of Truth? 

Within the passage itself is the answer and according to other passages such as Rev. 18:4, God's people must separate from the harlot system that calls itself Christian and is headed by "false apostles"  (i.e. "messengers"), which in the previous verses are referred to as "the  Nicolaitane error". -the clergy system that rules over God's people)

That is the false church hierarchy structure. It is the clergy headship over God's people.  
-and the the Balaam ministry which sells its' ministry services as Balaam did.
This was shown in previous verses in Revelation 2: 2,6,14 , and other places such as 2 Peter 3:2-3 and in Jude.
In our day it is especially the 501c3 churches that "married" Caesar. It is antichrist.


We overcome the ministry of the Nicolaitanes (clergy over laity),  and Jezebel, i.e., the manipulating-controlling-dominating leadership that asserts carnal authority over God's people as did the pharisees and clergy of Jesus' day through Titles, and mans devices as Jesus said.

As we overcome the typical church doctrines, creeds, statements of faith, and clergy-built belief systems of our fathers traditions, God will open our eyes to behold "what the Spirit says to the congregations".

As long as we look at scripture through "lenses" of tradition learned in church, our spiritual vision will be obscured.
We exhort you to take those religious glasses off and pray a Luke 14:33 prayer..

As you overcome the Nicolaitane error and doctrine Jesus "hates", you are on your way to understanding God's Word as the Holy Spirit teaches. 
As Paul wrote in Galatians 1:12 
For neither did I receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came to me through revelation of Jesus Christ

Paul did not go to church. He went to God in prayer and study.

A personal example was my own question about 
"the deeds of the Nicolaitanes which I hate" in Rev. 2:6. 
For 25 years I always wondered what that was. 
After all, if Jesus "hated" it, I certainly did not want to be doing that!

But what was it?
One day the Lord directed me to read Revelation 2, and as I read Christ's words about the "Nicolaitane error", I wondered yet again what it meant. 
Suddenly the Lord imparted understanding and I saw it revealed and the Nicolaitanes were all through the scriptures! One word best says it. "Clergy". Another word is a man "king".

They were the ones who persecuted Jesus.

King Saul was an early prototype. (leaders being elevated).
Diotrephes in 3John was one
Paul warned of them in Acts 20:33-35.
It all became clear the most common form of church government is the Nicolaitane error.   


Jesus is not the denominational, sectarian church version presented by titled church officials like "Reverend", "Pastor", "Apostle", "Rabbi", and a dozen other titles worn by men and women in the church system, collectively known as "the Clergy" which rules the laity (people).

A white stone:
What does that "hidden manna" reveal?
Jesus said they would receive a "white stone".

This is the simplicity of Christ Jesus of the scripture.  

"The Stone that the builders rejected who is become the Head of the corner". Acts 4:11 
This is the stone which was set at nought of you (the apostate) builders, which is become the head of the corner."  
-set aside by the builders then, and now, who substitute their version of Jesus as they built their churches, organizations, and personal ministries within Nicolaitane-run churches. 

The "white stone" is the revelation of Jesus, and not what most of Christianity superimposes over God's Word. The revelation given to Peter in Matthew 16:18. 

How can we say that?  As you look at the "Not In Scripture List" on our web page, you will see many examples.

a NEW name written:

The "new name written"  was there all the time; it was veiled by religion.
It is the "new (especially in freshness"  Jesus  (the white stone) of the "hidden manna" of the Word of God "that which is written".  -in the scriptures. 


Can "another Jesus slip in through the church door? 

2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that comes preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached.  
Not every "Jesus" preached is The "White Stone" Jesus that Paul preached and the writer John knew!

Every sect an denomination presents Jesus as they see Him. 

Believe it or not, none of these are in scripture.

-"God incarnate"
-"The deity of Christ"
 -“the Holy Trinity”
God the Son, “God in three persons”, fully God fully man”, “triune”, “dual nature” “God robed in flesh”, “God incarnate”. "God became a man", Divine Son”, “God-man”, “man God”.

Shocked?
Then please see "
This Jesus" that was preached by His disciples in Acts.

"which no one *knows but he that receives it"
How do you receive that? 
As we "renounce all that you have" in order to become HIS disciple, as Jesus taught in Luke 14:33, it even includes our church doctrine.
This is how we empty of ourselves in surrendering "all that we have" and believe in order for the Lord to renew our minds in His Word


Every formula, every man made list, creed, and statement no matter how seemingly important.  And yes, it takes time to allow God to purge out of us the "seed" (words) of men.. And yes, I still find this action of the Holy Spirit working in me.


Leaders will always make excuses for their religious traditions as Jesus said in Mark 7:8
You leave the commandment of God, and hold fast the tradition of men.


Revelation is to recognize the Pure Jesus of the Hidden Manna after overcoming the Nicolaitane error and the preach-for-reward ministry! 
"
Knowing" the "new name", is as Peter received by revelation by the Spirit of God, as it is not found in repeating the syllables "Jesus" or a variant. 

 
*knoweth: (G1097
 A prolonged primary verb; to "know" (absolutely), in a great variety of applications and with many implications, with others not thus clearly expressed):  perceive, be resolved, be sure, understand.)  

Now that you
know, here is the passage in Revelation:
11   He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
       He that overcomes shall not be hurt of the second death.

12   and to the angel of the church in Pergamum write
        These things says he that hath the sharp two-edged sword:

13   I know where you dwell, even where Satan`s throne is (satan rules in the heart of the natural, carnal-minded man)  and thou hold fast my name,
       and did not deny my faith, even in the days of Antipas my witness, my faithful one,
       who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.

14   But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there some that hold
        the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to cast a stumbling-block
        before the children of Israel,
       to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit fornication.

15   So have you also some that hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans in like manner.
16   Repent therefore; or else I come to thee quickly, and I will make war against them
        with the sword of my mouth.

17    He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

To him that overcomes, to him will I give of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, and upon the stone a new name written, which no one knows but he that receives it.





Saturday, October 15, 2011

Brother Prophet, Speak by the Holy Spirit or Shut up.


Prophets and Watchmen
Ephesians 4:11  And he gave some to be apostles; and some prophets
-rory moore

First, let us state there is no scripture giving pastors sole authority over a group of God's people.
Am I against pastors then? -NO! I love real pastors but today most only function as hirelings.

 We are missing ministries in the church.
Only once in the New Testament is the word "pastor" used (Eph. 4:11), yet pastors dominate evangelical Christianity. Prophets are mentioned in 45 NT verses yet are practicaly non-existent except for a few that prophesy for pay in the church world, and a plethora of prophet-watchmen" on the internet.

Many prophets are paid to speak to churches and most always prophecy prosperity, larger ministries, and a bigger name. We heard plenty of these types and they were welcome guest speakers in our assembly on a regular basis and usually were paid very generously.

Now consider the role of the prophet, of which God said He placed in the church also.  The real ones do not seek the limelight but will speak when the Lord puts His Word in them.  They are more loners and isolated as they are called to be somewhat remote as he does not have the warm and chummy personality of the pastor.  (people tend to be drawn to pastors and intimidated by prophets).

The prophet will "see" things others don't. For that he may be mocked, scorned, and rejected,  he is by nature a watchman.

 







Caution!:  It often falls on the prophet to bring correction to pastors, ministers, and God's people.

Why do we caution? Because the wannabe correctors' of others better be fully ordained by and sent from God to do so, and not in the will of self.
When you do so, it better be with the utmost humility, meekness, and love
.
-And without any anger, revenge, malice, or assertive flesh-driven angst.

Your spirit must be clean and before you go checking the mote in another's eye, the beam must be out of yours.

2Timothy 2:25  in meekness correcting them that oppose themselves;
                            if peradventure God may give them repentance unto the knowledge of the truth,
 Titus 3:2 to speak evil of no man, not to be contentious, to be gentle, showing all meekness
                toward all men.
Gal. 6:1 Brethren, even if a man be overtaken in any trespass, ye who are spiritual,
                restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; looking to thyself,
lest thou also be tempted
.

Those verses should close the mouth of a lot of critical, angry watchmen.  But if God sends us, we need to go.

I have been sent a few times in this manner and in each case, I did not want to go to the person with God's corrective Word. The Lord spoke to me in one instance that if I did not that He (God), would put their punishment on me also. 


Another time I was sent to a local pastor. Again, in no way did I want to share with him what the Lord had given me as I knew he would not receive it. I counseled with other elders who agreed I needed to go.
Of course it turned out exactly as I foresaw and I was rejected and labeled a "false prophet" by him.

But on the way home the Lord spoke to me and said "I cannot send judgement before I send them a prophet first".

A man may prophesy according to the measure of the gift in him. And he will do well to grow in his gifting. A young prophet may be sitting on a church pew and get a dream or two, or a revelation from the Lord, but he has a long ways to go. The Lord will season him thru suffering, and mature him through many fiery trials...
A new testament prophet may "prophecy in part"..
The "part" is part the spirit of the man and part the spirit of God. In other words, he can get his prophecy right but get some of his own knowledge mixed in.. That is why you see a lot of prophets prophesying by the news..

Very few understand what it is to be a prophet, and the false ones have muddied the waters. Very few have walked in a prophets shoes... Many of them just get conformed to a role in a church by a church system that has been so leavened that they are un-recognizable.

The prophet is drawn to, of all things, PROPHECY, and loves the Book of Revelation, Daniel, and the other prophets. He will get revelation from the Lord and it will usually upset the comfortable traditions and status quo of "church".  He makes pastors uncomfortable because he strains at their leash.

When he walks in the Spirit, he is passionate for God's Word and calling people to seek the Lord.
He will be perceived as harsh, moody, difficult, and unsociable,which is often true because he just does not conform to the church "system" unless he gives himself over to gain and pleasing people.

He is also called to be a minister and servant to the body of Christ, not a glorified idol of spiritual mysteries that prostitutes his gift for the reward of a Name or filthy lucre.

In this respect, he ought to be able to minister and pray for people, often "hearing" the Holy Spirit direct him and revealing to him the afflictions and infirmities of the people he ministers to.

Prophets are more likely to be discerned first by Spiritual people, other prophets, and later acknowledged by others. John 4:19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet...

***any prophetic man or woman worth their salt can tell you about their battles with the spirit of jezebel.***, -a spirit which absolutely hates and despises the prophets among us.

       He can be carnal and he hates his own failures.
       He is zealous for people to repent and be holy.
       He seeks spiritual things from above, visions, and dreams.
       He is very sensitive and perceptive of spiritual atmosheres.
       He will shout the truth from the rooftop then hide.
       He is excited by revelation from scripture.
       He may miss a prophecy and it fail when flesh or emotions get in the way.

       His prophecies are disdained.
       He is rejected but he loves people..
       He is known for his personal flaws and weaknesses.
       He makes people uncomfortable when he speaks about God.

      He is against the establishment order of man-made ministry,
       a contrarian who is stifled by ritual and routine.
       He has a fiery heart and speaks fiery words. Sometimes to his regret.
       He talks to many about God.
       He carries the Word and truth, but is scorned as a lone ranger Christian.
       He is modest and not flashy.

       He is not comfortable taking money from people for ministry.
       He is called to suffer affliction.
       He is without honor in his own house and country.
       He is called to suffer. Take, brethren, .. an example of suffering and of patience
            the prophets who spake in the name of the Lord
. -james 5:10

       He dies when he is conformed to another man's ministry and loses his own Spiritual identity.
       He is better for staying home and hearing from God than hearing a 3-point Bible College sermon.
       He knows he is "different", but does not know why.

       He rejoices when demons are cast out and people healed.
       He positively grieves for what promotes itself as Christian.
       He does not follow the mainstream crowd.
       He hears from God and it is usually different from what is commonly taught.

      He thinks something is wrong with himself when the reality is it is the church that has apostasized
         and it is his calling to examine themselves in the light of Scripture.

For this he is marginalized, tolerated (as long as he financially participates), and very seldom recognized in the assembly as a gift of ministry from the Lord.

The missing minister of  the prophet in the local church is tragic.
He has been homogenized into the mainstream milk that calls itself Christian. Typically he sits in a pew or is molded into the job of a pastor, but inside there is a burning fire that wants to speak for the Lord.
   
       He is not seeker sensitive in the stagnant water of the typical church service.
       When mature,  he rejects being hired for money, reputation, or popularity.
       He is non self-glorying, non self- promoting.
       Forget the "Prophet Appreciation Month"  -he does not want it.

 If you have been around church very long, you have met prophets, pastors, teachers, and perhaps an apostle.
Most of them became nameless, faceless followers conformed to the image of their fellowship.

But God has them, oh yes, and the ones who come out from among them and follow the Lord "outside the camp" of modern Christianity will be as candles in the night

Next post: Watchmen Warning!  -how "knowledge pollutes the gift.