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Monday, January 1, 2024

1GOD and John 1 The "WORD" is not a Person

and the Word was God. 
He was with God in the beginning. 
All came to be through him, and without him nothing made had being.
In him was life, and the life was the light of mankind. 
The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not suppressed it.
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from the Complete Jewish Bible

1God John 1

As I was coming into the Son of God revelation, John chapter 1 was a big question mark and one of my  "WHAT ABOUT!??"  passages.
We should include Colossians 1 and I will quote that below.

Like you, I had been taught "the WORD" was a person, Jesus Christ".

Then I realized words were also what God spoke "in the beginning" in Genesis. ....
and as God SAID  <i.e. spoke, expressed thought, the action of saying...
... ”let there be.."

The phrase "and GOD SAID" is used 10 times in Genesis 1.
I considered the power and essence of God's utterance, expressing with life and Spiritual power the words which brought forth the physical creation.

Was that Jesus speaking with God or was that God Himself speaking?

4,000 years later Jesus said he spoke what he heard from God,
and that "the WORDS that I speak, they are SPIRIT and they are LIFE".

 God's Word thus being life, Spirit, and a living word as it comes forth from Him.

 The word that He spoke conceived Christ and lived in Christ. "and the word became flesh.."

a. So now we look at 1Jn 1:1
👉That which was from the beginning (i.e. God's Word),  ("and the word became flesh..")  which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, the Word of life;       OF”  <means: of-from-by>   

b. The "beginning" of a new creation through Christ, the "last Adam", (1 Cor 15) is also a second "beginning", beginning with the ministry of Jesus Christ, a man, and..

(2 For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and to show you that eternal life, <the word> which was with the Father, and was manifested to us;

Thus "God was in Christ" as the living WORDS as Christ spoke the words the Father gave him to speak. 
John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill Me, a Man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard from God
John 6:63 Iis the Spirit that gives life; the flesh profits nothing.
The 
words that I speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Because Jesus said he spoke what He heard from God.
again in John 14:10
Believe not that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I speak not of Myself; but the Father that dwells in Me

Again, John 6:35
It is written in the Prophets: ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’
Every man therefore that has 
heard and has learned from the Father comes to Me.

I am open to correction but that is how I now understand and see John 1. And there is nothing there with a plain statement "Jesus is God",
-which is what people read into it when they look through the lens of traditional church thought.

John 1 is speaking of the new creation, not the one in Genesis.
John never wrote an explicit statement to believe  "Jesus is God",nor is it written anywhere in the Bible!

again, Jesus the through whom we are recreated,  Galatians 6:15 For neither being circumcised nor being uncircumcised matters; what matters is being a new creation.

Again, "all were created by Him and for Him'.
We are created for Christ, the HEAD of the Body, whose head is GOD.

The NEW creation was "in the beginning", John 1, and began with Jesus Christ, the MAN born in Bethlehem. The old passed away, Jesus is the author and finisher of the NEW creation.

"GOD" was not incarnated, born, died, resurrected, only to become GOD again. We know because the man still calls God "MY GOD" in Revelation 40 years after GOD raised the man from the dead.

The overlooked salutation is in conflict with the trinity-oneness error, but when correctly understood, is in harmony with what I have pointed out in the context.

In another essay, I show the truth about Colossians 1 and "by Him were all things created".

THE WORD WAS WHAT GOD SAID, and not a person. 
  The WORD WAS prophetically a man through the foreknowledge of God, that which conceived and begat the man, Jesus Christ in the womb of Mary.

God did not "incarnate" or become a man, His words became a man.
May we bless God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ forever and ever.

Part 2

Understanding the words...................

That Bible Word "logos" we all heard in John 1 as "The WORD", translates as "in the beginning was the *word*.

The *word* was with GOD, and the *word* was God".


This short post will demonstrate why "THE WORD" was NOT a person, but was the means by which the person, Christ" was begotten. Words are used to communicate, God used them to create. The power of God to create was with the sound of His voice speaking... words.
In the fullness of time, GOD sent Gabriel to Mary with a message contained and expressed through *words*. (Greek: logos). Did the angel Gabriel speak WORDS to Mary? Luke 1:29 But she was very perplexed at 👉 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙖𝙩𝙚𝙢𝙚𝙣𝙩👈, and kept pondering what kind of salutation this was. "statement" in the original NT Greek is "LOGOS". The LOGOS came by the angel from GOD. YHVH, the same GOD that created all creation "in the beginning" when GOD 👉SAID👈 👉 "LET THERE BE....".
"THE LORD *said* to my Lord, sit thou here till *I* make *your* enemies *your* footstool. Acts 2:35 Let's take our eyes off the wisdom of this world, the scholars and church leaders, and look to what The Author *𝙨𝙖𝙞𝙙*.. The apostles delivered God's WORDS (logos) that they received through Jesus Christ.

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Logos "word" defined and used, according to the Lexicon.

Logos  Noun Masculine

  1. of speech
    1. a word, uttered by a living voice, embodies a conception or idea
    2. what someone has said
      1. a word
      2. the sayings of God
      3. decree, mandate or order
      4. of the moral precepts given by God
      5. Old Testament prophecy given by the prophets
      6. what is declared, a thought, declaration, a weighty saying, a dictum, a maxim
    3. discourse
      1. the act of speaking, speech
      2. the faculty of speech, skill and practice in speaking
      3. a kind or style of speaking
      4. a continuous speaking discourse - instruction
    4. doctrine, teaching
    5. anything reported in speech; a narration, narrative
    6. matter under discussion, thing spoken of, affair, a matter in dispute, case, suit at law
    7. the thing spoken of or talked about; event, deed
  2. its use as respect to the MIND alone
    1. reason, the mental faculty of thinking, meditating, reasoning, calculating
    2. account, i.e. regard, consideration
    3. account, i.e. reckoning, score
    4. account, i.e. answer or explanation in reference to judgment
    5. relation, i.e. with whom as judge we stand in relation
      1. reason would
    6. reason, cause, ground

      -rory moore


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