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Sunday, October 13, 2024

Pray to GOD through Jesus the Man

 


There is so much church-instigated confusion regarding a simple thing like prayer.
Some churches pray repetitious phrases and mindless words.
Some use the time clock method, 2 minutes/ 15 minutes/ 1 hour etc.
Some pray hoping if they ask enough times that will get through.
Some depend on how many people they can enlist to help and agree in hope God will here somebody.
Some depend on the Pastor's prayer, others not so much.
Many don't know who to pray to, GOD, Jesus, saints, Mary, Mecca, Yahweh, Jehovah, I AM, Yeshua, Yahwuah, and a dozen more variants.

But in the Book of Acts, immediately following the four gospels, Jesus had ascended up, in his words, 
 to "MY GOD AND YOUR GOD
" Jn 20:17/ Acts 1:10, and they watched as he went up.

WHO did the disciples pray to, as they continued together in prayer as the narrative continued?

This is why we may learn from them and so I defer to ACTS for the facts.
Here the first prayer in Acts is:
And they prayed and said, “Thou, Lord, who knows the hearts of all men, show us which of these two Thou has chosen..
Peter went on in Acts 2 to preach that "Jesus Christ of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God..... " was  

They knew Jesus is not God, and this is shown by their prayer in Acts 4 as they prayed:

Acts 4: 24 And when they heard this, they lifted up their voice
𝐭𝐨 𝐆𝐨𝐝 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐚𝐜𝐜𝐨𝐫𝐝 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐬𝐚𝐢𝐝, “𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝, 𝐓𝐡𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐫𝐭 𝐆𝐨𝐝 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐡𝐚𝐬𝐭 𝐦𝐚𝐝𝐞 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐡 and the sea and all that is in them,

25 who by the mouth of Thy servant David had said, ‘Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?  26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together
👉against the Lord <i.e. GOD, vs. 24>,

🎯AND against HIS Christ.’
 27 For truly against Thy holy child Jesus, whom YOU have anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, had gathered together 28 to do whatsoever Thy hand and Thy counsel determined before to be done.

29 And now, Lord, behold their threatening's, and grant to Thy servants that with all boldness they may speak Thy Word, 30 by stretching forth Thine hand to heal, and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of 🎯Thy holy child Jesus.”

31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together;
and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost.

Peter had days before preached CHRIST to the Jews, that Jesus was "a MAN approved of God". Acts 2:22. In Acts 13:38 and 17:31 they were still declaring Jesus to be a "man",  and this was after his ascension TO God.

Does this sound like a prophecy of a man that is GOD?

Psalm 22:15-17  My strength is dried up like a potsherd, and My tongue cleaves to My jaws; and 🎯YOU have brought  🎯Me into the dust of death.
  16 For dogs have surrounded Me; the assembly of the wicked have enclosed Me; they pierced My hands and My feet. 17 I can count all My bones; they look and stare upon Me.

Isaiah 53 is also quoted as a direct Messianic passage.
The subject of that prophecy is about "a MAN of sorrows" who would be the sacrifice for sin.
There is nothing in Isaiah 53 to indicate the man is God, in fact, the passage shows the man and his relationship to his GOD. 


Wednesday, August 21, 2024

BY ONE SPIRIT the Promised Gift and a "New Thing"



 



BY ONE SPIRIT
-rory moore




The promised blessing of the Holy Spirit, but what is it? Who is it? How is it?

"And on My servants and on My handmaidens I will pour out in those days My Spirit, and they shall prophesy."

A few years back when I first realized the scripture said Jesus has a GOD, whom He called "MY GOD", I found 16 references for that. (see the John 20:17 example)
Still, it was a 2 year process to unlearn what I had believed, and my foundation in searching was my need of letting go of what the church versions of scripture did not say and-or especially what I THOUGHT it meant.


-In previous posts I said before how the Lord led me to search out the visions of God in heaven to see what the prophets "saw".

That made it clear the ONE GOD is ONE. Alone. "He", "Me", "Him", "I", "Myself". The One..

The prophets saw HIM, not a "them". "WHAT THEY SAW"


But this still created many "what about'?" questions. What about this verse, what about that verse? Confusion and conflicts result because we lack God's understanding of His Word. Yet He desires us to seek and to search for ourselves from His word.


Later, when studying the Book of Acts I saw who Jesus is, the Jesus the non-theologically leavened disciples knew and preached. This came through the words they preached as they gave witness and testimony who Jesus is. I realized they knew best what to tell the people who Jesus is so I focused on their words as they preached who Jesus is in the Book of Acts.


Their witness in Acts was plain and simple. (not one mention of a triune/ trinity/ 3 God persons was ever preached. Their words were true. The disciples in Acts were untainted by the countless church versions that we all suffered through trying to understand Jesus and The Father, and Holy Spirit.

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I hope this will help answer some of your questions about the Holy Spirit as I had the same ones for many years....


1. Jesus in John 14 and 16 below, speaks of Himself in the third person, as He often did. Some examples:
"The son of man is come.."
""He that speaks to you is him".
"He that has the bride is the bridegroom".


Thus:

I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever
17 even the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it sees Him not, neither knows Him.
But you <i.e. his apostles> KNOW HIM, for He dwells with you, and shall be in you.

-that is the physical Jesus they knew that had been dwelling with them.


2. When Jesus spoke of "when the Spirit of truth is come",
he was foretelling of his Spirit and God's Spirit coming as the "One Spirit" quoted below.
Remember the physical man, Jesus Christ said "I am the Way the Truth..." Jn 14:6 But after, -the "Spirit of truth" is his spirit, unlimited by time and space through God's Spirit.

-even though He spoke in this way as "the comforter".

"when He the Comforter is come.." <speaking of himself again in third person>
"I will not leave you comfortless, I WILL COME TO YOU".
-and this was not as in a rapture, and not in His visible return.


Again we have his words John 14:18 but note the detail on his coming to you:

“If a man love Me, he will keep My words; and My Father will love him, and *We* will come to him and make *Our* abode with him."


3. here is the clincher. You will love it.
The phrase "Holy Spirit filled" has more for us than we knew. The exact phrase "filled with the Holy Spirit" is found *8* times in scripture.
*8* is the number symbolic of a "new beginning"!


But how could these people be "filled with the Holy Spirit" before the Holy Spirit was given?

Luke 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink, and he shall be 𝒇𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑮𝒉𝒐𝒔𝒕 even from his mother’s womb.
Luke 1:41 And it came to pass, when Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was 𝒇𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑮𝒉𝒐𝒔𝒕.
Luke 1:67 And his father Zacharias was 𝒇𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑮𝒉𝒐𝒔𝒕 and prophesied.

??? We ask because of this in John 7:39

"the Spirit was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified".

What changed from those like Elizabeth and her unborn child John, being "filled with the Holy Spirit" and the Spirit "NOT YET GIVEN"?
JN 7:38 He that believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.”
39 (But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believe in Him should receive;
for the Holy Ghost was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified!
HERE IS THE CHANGE:
It came after Jesus was raised and glorified,
Acts 2:4 And they were all 𝒇𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑮𝒉𝒐𝒔𝒕 and began to speak in other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Now we have the fulfillment of the "we will come and make OUR abode with him".

GOD's SPIRIT and Christ's Spirit are the ONE SPIRIT:

Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, (no separation of Christ and Father's Spirit).(Spirit baptism is not "accepting Christ", communion, or because someone goes forward.

-It is a full baptism of Christ's spirit and will produce fruits of His spirit.
( Most churches will say you have something you never got.)

Here is more showing us "by ONE Spirit":

Eph 2:18 for through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Eph 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Summary:
The Holy, "One Spirit" is God and Christ undivided. Inseparable now.
Before Christ/ Pentecost, the Lord God  created creation, filled people, anointed people, and moved upon people.
-but that was not the Promise of the Spirit of Jesus Christ.
After Jesus glorification, God broke the bread of Christ and gives his spirit it to all that seek Him to receive it, and He does so through Jesus Christ.
Acts 2:33 Therefore, being exalted by the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, He has shed forth this which you now see and hear... (they were speaking in tongues and prophesying). ("I will come unto you", "We will come and make our abode..")


Peter said in Acts 2:17 ....this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel.

17 ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, I will pour out My Spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.
18 And on My servants and on My handmaidens I will pour out in those days My Spirit, and they shall prophesy.
The Holy Spirit is not a mythical "third person", it is the Spirit of GOD and Christ, coming to us undivided and God does not separate Himself into three persons, which scripture never stated.


This is what Father spoke in Feb 2024:
"All that I say to you..
All that I do, *I DO THROUGH MY SON*.

Through Me, He IS WITH YOU AND IS IN YOU."

*After* Pentecost in Acts 2, the "new thing" God would do, He now brings the spirit <character, nature, authority, power etc.> of Jesus that we may be filled with and empowered to become sons of God.
Now I see how so many of us argued for their version of God the Father, His beloved son, Holy Ghost, and did so from our shallow letter traditions. trinity, oneness, JW's, Mormon, Catholic, etc. People repeat what they are told without being equipped by the Holy Spirit to discern tradition from truth.
-all from intellect and carnal traditions without revelation from Father.


THE GIFT HE WANTS TO GIVE AND FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE:

And Peter said unto them, Repent ye, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto the remission of your sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 10:45   And they of the circumcision that believed were amazed, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit. for they heard them speaking with tongues. -first evidence.

Acts 11:17: If then God gave to them (us gentiles) the like gift as he did also unto us, when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I, that I could withstand God?
Acts 19: he said to them, “Have YOU received the Holy Ghost, having believed?


And they said, “We have not so much as heard whether there is a Holy Ghost.”

3 And he said to them, “to what then were you baptized?” They said, “Unto John’s baptism.” 4 Paul replied, “John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe in Him who should come after him, that is, in Christ Jesus.”

5 When they heard this, they were (re) baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Ghost came upon them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied. (evidence)

Think of a glass, that's us. The Holy Spirit is Living Water.
Many are an empty glass, and many empty attend church.

Some have a thimble full. There is room for 16ounces.

God wants us to be filled that others may drink. It is an unending fountain and the glass refilled many many times. When the glass is filled, there is evidence and fruit of life.


It is a free gift, and does not require tithes, nor keeping church law, nor church membership, nor the many laws from the Old Testament.

It WILL: lead you to desire a closer walk with Jesus, a desire to tell others about Him, to feed on his Word for yourself, convict of personal sins and even change your views on many things.
It WILL empower you to be a witness, give you spiritual gifts to use to minister to others, and open your eyes to the Kingdom of God.
It WILL lead you and guide you into more and more Truth while exposing the lies we are surrounded with in the church world and the world system.

ALL by the selfsame Spirit.
1 Corinthians 12:31
But covet earnestly the best gifts, and yet show I unto you a more excellent way.
1 Corinthians 14:39
Therefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak in tongues.

Monday, August 19, 2024




GOD'S FORM

The “form” of God when spoken of in scripture is not physical, but is spirit with shape and form, according to the prophets who saw Him in visions.
-rory moore




Think in terms of a ghost and or spirits that appear to people, you may have even seen something yourself.
Spirit beings include angels, demons, and other beings that can interface between the spirit realm and our physical dimension.

Ezekiel 8:3  And He put forth the form of a hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the Spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem.

Ezekiel 40:2   In the visions of God He brought me into the land of Israel and set me upon a very high mountain, by which there was, as it were, the form of a city on the south.

Daniel 3:25  He answered and said, “Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Philippians 2:6 Jesus. “who, being IN the form of God,

John 5:37  And the Father that sent me, he has borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his form. : the external or outward appearance, form figure, shape.

Just as God’s VOICE was heard audibly with the ear senses at various times, so was his form <shape, figure, likeness, image> seen  in Spiritual vision.
God’s “form” is a literal visible Presence without beginning and without end, undefined by physical borders, and is within the brilliant and glorious light, to which no natural man can see or approach.

This is what many of the prophets saw.
Isaiah 6: In the year that king Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple.. (His “train” being the Light, glory, and radiance emanating from and through the form of Him.

He wants us to know Him.

1kings 22:9  And Micaiah said, Therefore hear thou the word of the Lord: >>> I saw The Lord sitting on his throne <<<, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.
That gives more perspective.

Ezekiel’s vision and the details give perspective and enhance what he “saw”:
Ezekiel 1:1 and I saw visions of God.....and the hand of THE LORD upon him.

1:26  And above the firmament that was over their heads was 
the likeness of a throne as the appearance of a sapphire stone;  and upon the likeness of the throne was a likeness as the appearance of a man upon it above.**

26 Now above the expanse that was over their heads there was something resembling a throne, like lapis lazuli in appearance; and on that which resembled a throne, high up, was a figure with the *appearance of a man.  

*sight, phenomenon, spectacle, appearance, vision.
what is seen
a vision (supernatural)
sight, vision (power of seeing)


27 Then I noticed from the appearance of His loins and upward something like glowing metal that looked like fire all around within it, and from the appearance of His loins and downward I saw something like fire; and there was a radiance around Him.

28 As the appearance of the rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the surrounding radiance.

Without making a lengthy post, there is enough here for the reader to see what they all spoke of, both Jesus and the prophets, in reference to the GOD of heaven, the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ who is blessed forever. Invisible to the natural man, yet seen by the spiritual man.

Matthew 5:8  Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.


Saturday, June 15, 2024

50 Reasons Christians are free from the Old Testament Laws




50 Reasons Christians are not bound to the Old Testament Laws of the Torah.
-rory moore


Are we are to keep, observe, and do the Law of the Old Testament Commandments, ordinances, and statutes? Some people think so. What did the apostles think and write?
We will see there are many, many new testament scriptures that should be our lens to read the old testament law. -And especially showing why Christ is the better way.

1. "done away" :
2Corinthians 3:14 ... for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains, it not being revealed to them that it is *done away in Christ*.

2. "if led by the Spirit, not under law":
Gal. 5:18 18 But if ye are led by the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

3. If under law, faith is made void:
Romans 4:14 For if they that are of the law are heirs, faith is made void

4. Made dead to the Law by Christ's body:
Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ

5. law made nothing perfect:
Hebrews 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect)

6. Law not made for a righteous man:
1Timothy 1:9 as knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and unruly, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

7. The carnal commandments disanulled:
Heb. 7:18
For there is a disannulling of a foregoing commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness

8. Jesus is guarantor of a better Covenant:
Heb 7:22 by so much also has Jesus become the surety of a better covenant.

9. "discharged from the law"
Romans 7:6 But now we have been discharged from the law, ... that we serve in newness of the spirit, and not in oldness of the letter.

10. In Jesus commands and ordinances of Law abolished:
Eph. 2:15 having abolished in the flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances

11. In Christ commands and ordinances blotted out and nailed to His cross:
Col. 2:14 having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he hath taken it out that way, nailing it to the cross;

12. weak and beggarly elements of the law are bondage:
Galatians 4:9 But now that ye have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how turn ye back again to the weak and beggarly rudiments, where ye desire to be in bondage over again?

13.  Servant girl Hagar was an allegory for bondage of the law:
Galatians 4:24 Which things contain an allegory: for these women are two covenants; one from mount Sinai, bearing children unto bondage, which is Hagar.

14. Law entangles unto bondage:
Galatians 5:1 For freedom did Christ set us free: stand fast therefore, and be not entangled again in a yoke of bondage.

15. Law does not bring promised inheritance in God's kingdom:
Galatians 3:18 For if the inheritance is of the law, it is no more of promise: but God hath granted it to Abraham by promise.

16. Law was temporary until Christ came:
Galatians 3:19 What then is the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise hath been made

17. Faith justifies apart from law:
Romans 3:28 We reckon therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

18. Not under law, but under grace:
Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under law, but under grace.

19. Law of Spirit of Life makes free from law of sin and death:
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

20. Law fulfilled in those walking after the Spirit:
Romans 8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

21. Israel who followed law but did not become righteous:
Romans 9:31 But Israel, following after a law of righteousness, did not arrive at that law.

22. love fulfills the law:
Romans 13:10 Love works no ill to his neighbor: love therefore is the fulfillment of the law.

23. no one is justified by works of law:

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus

24. Holy Spirit not received by works of the law, but by faith:
Galatians 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

25. Living under works of the law brings curse:
Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

26. No man justified by the law:
Gal. 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

27. Law makes grace void:
Galatians 2:21 I do not make void the grace of God: for if righteousness is through the law, then Christ died for nothing.

28. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law:
Galatians 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us; for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:

29. Galatians desired to go under law:
Galatians 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?

30. People desire to teach law in ignorance:
1 Timothy 1:7 desiring to be teachers of the law, though they understand neither what they say, nor whereof they confidently affirm.

31. Striving over the law vain and unprofitable:
Titus 3:9 But shun foolish questionings, and genealogies, and strifes, and fightings about law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

32. Priesthood changed, law was changed:
Hebrews 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

33. Law was a shadow, does not perfect:
Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of the good things to come, not the very image of the things, can never with the same sacrifices year by year,... make perfect them that draw nigh.

34. Break one law, guilty of all:
James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is become guilty of all.
35. Do the law requires do all laws:
Gal. 3:10 ...Cursed is every one who continues not IN ALLl that are written in the book of the law, to do them.

36. If law makes righteous, Christ died for nothing.

Gal. 2:21
I do not make void the grace of God: for if righteousness is through the law, then Christ died for nothing.

37. early church troubled by law observant Christians:
Acts 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees who believed, saying, It is needful to circumcise them, and to charge them to keep the law of Moses.

Acts 15:24 ...we have heard that certain who went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls; to whom we gave no commandment

38. Grace plus law called another gospel:
Galatians 1:7 which is not another gospel only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

39. Law hardens mind, veils spiritual vision, and not revealed to law keepers it is done away in Christ.
1Cor 3:4 but their minds were hardened: for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains, it not being revealed to them that it is done away in Christ.

40. Old Covenant not faultless, New Covenant better:
Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then would no place have been sought for a second.

41. Old Covenant now Old, decayed, and vanishing away:
Hebrews 8:13 In that he said, A new covenant he has made the first old. But that which is becoming old and aged is near to vanishing away.

42. New Covenant is eternal:
Hebrews 13:20 Now the God of peace, who brought again from the dead the great shepherd of the sheep with the blood of an eternal covenant, even our Lord Jesus,

43. Jesus mediator of New Covenant, New Covenant gives eternal life:
Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of a new covenant, that a death having taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first covenant, they that have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

44. Old Covenant is of letter, new Covenant is Spirit of life:
2nd Corinthians 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of a new covenant; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter kills, but the spirit gives life.

45. New Covenant brings remission of sins:
Matthew 26:28 for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many unto remission of sins.

46. Required Lawful Sacrifices and offerings from law no longer remit sins:
Hebrews 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

47. Ordinances of the law abolished:
abolished: Ephesians 2:15 having abolished in the flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; that he might create in himself of the two one new man, so making peace;

48. Lawful ordinances were nailed to the cross:
Colossians 2:14 having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he has taken it out that way, nailing it to the cross;

49. Paul questions why Colossian Christians subject to ordinances:
Colossians 2:20 If ye died with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, do ye subject yourselves to ordinances

50. Ordinances have appearance of religiousness and of no value against fleshly nature:
Col. 2:23 These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the gratification of the flesh.
NLT: 23 These rules may seem wise because they require strong devotion, pious self-denial, and severe bodily discipline. But they provide no help in conquering a person’s evil desires.

many many new testament scriptures should be our lens to read the old.

Look here:

Hebrews 8:13 In that he said, A new covenant he has made the first old. But that which is becoming old and waxes aged is near to vanishing away.

and again, "for the law made nothing perfect <=== but the bringing in of a better hope"
and again, "IF righteousness came by the law, ===> THEN CHRIST DIED IN VAIN <==

Galatians 2:21 I do not make void the grace of God: for if righteousness is through the law, then Christ died for nothing.

Galatians 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could make alive, truly righteousness would have been of the law.

2 COR 3:7-11 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. 10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. 11 For if that which is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious

Alan asked : The Law required to stone their children to death when they are rebellious??? Did GOD say that, or is it a MAN written law?

Here is the law: Deut:21:
20 and they shall say to the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21 And all the men of his city shall STONE HIM TO DEATH with stones: so shall you put away the evil from the among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

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Here is the death to Sabbath breakers law:

Exodus 35:2
Six days shall work be done; but on the seventh day there shall be to you a holy day, a sabbath of solemn rest to The LORD: whosoever doeth any work therein shall be PUT TO DEATH.

EXAMPLE: Numbers 15: a man stoned for picking up sticks.

34 And they put him in ward, because it had not been declared what should be done to him.
35 And GOD said to Moses, The man shall surely be put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him to death with stones; as GOD commanded Moses.
................. ===> DO ALL OR ELSE <=== > because it is sin not to obey "ALL" to do the above.


The LAW OF "ALL":
Leviticus 19:37 Therefore shall ye observe *ALL* my statutes, and ALL my judgments, and do them: I am the LORD.
Leviticus 20:22 You shall therefore *KEEP ALL* my statutes, and *ALL* my judgments, and do them: that the land, whither I bring you to dwell therein, not vomit you out.

Leviticus 26:15 And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do *ALL* my commandments, but that ye break my covenant:
16 ===> I also will do this to you: I will appoint terror over you, even consumption and fever, that shall consume the eyes, and make the soul to pine away; and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.
17 ===> And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be smitten before your enemies: they that hate you shall rule over you; and ye shall flee when none pursues you.
18 ===>>> And if ye will not yet for these things hearken unto me, then I will chastise you seven times more for your sins. <===

Galatians 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?

ACTS 15 - But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.” 6 Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter. 7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.
8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, 9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.”

Romans 8:2-3 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin

the law was a tutor to bring us to Christ. But Christ has come and we are no longer under a tutor but Christ Himself.

It is one word as summed up in Gal 5:13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another!

TIM 1 :5-6 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith, 6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk, 7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.

Here is Paul's advice on how to deal with those wanting to strive and contend over these matters of the OT Law.
Titus 3 - But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless.
10 Reject a divisive man after the first and second admonition,
11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned. These strivings over the torah are indeed foolish contentions that bear no fruit to God.