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Wednesday, August 21, 2024

BY ONE SPIRIT the Promised Gift and a "New Thing"


 

BY ONE SPIRIT
-rory moore




The blessing of the Holy Spirit, but what is it? Who is it? How is it?

"And on My servants and on My handmaidens I will pour out in those days My Spirit, and they shall prophesy."

A few years back when I first realized the scripture said Jesus has a GOD, whom He called "MY GOD", I found 16 references for that. (see the John 20:17 example)
Still, it was a 2 year process to unlearn what I had believed, and my foundation in searching was my need of letting go of what the church versions of scripture did not say and-or especially what I THOUGHT it meant.


-In previous posts I said before how the Lord led me to search out the visions of God in heaven to see what the prophets "saw".

That made it clear the ONE GOD is ONE. Alone. "He", "Me", "Him", "I", "Myself". The One..

The prophets saw HIM, not a "them". "WHAT THEY SAW"


But this still created many "what about'?" questions. What about this verse, what about that verse? Confusion and conflicts result because we lack God's understanding of His Word. Yet He desires us to seek and to search for ourselves from His word.


Later, when studying the Book of Acts I saw who Jesus is, the Jesus the non-theologically leavened disciples knew and preached. This came through the words they preached as they gave witness and testimony who Jesus is. I realized they knew best what to tell the people who Jesus is so I focused on their words as they preached who Jesus is in the Book of Acts.


Their witness in Acts was plain and simple. (not one mention of a triune/ trinity/ 3 God persons was ever preached. Their words were true. The disciples in Acts were untainted by the countless church versions that we all suffered through trying to understand Jesus and The Father, and Holy Spirit.

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I hope this will help answer some of your questions about the Holy Spirit as I had the same ones for many years....


1. Jesus in John 14 and 16 below, speaks of Himself in the third person, as He often did. Some examples:
"The son of man is come.."
""He that speaks to you is him".
"He that has the bride is the bridegroom".


Thus:

I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever
17 even the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it sees Him not, neither knows Him.
But you <i.e. his apostles> KNOW HIM, for He dwells with you, and shall be in you.

-that is the physical Jesus they knew that had been dwelling with them.


2. When Jesus spoke of "when the Spirit of truth is come",
he was foretelling of his Spirit and God's Spirit coming as the "One Spirit" quoted below.
Remember the physical man, Jesus Christ said "I am the Way the Truth..." Jn 14:6 But after, -the "Spirit of truth" is his spirit, unlimited by time and space through God's Spirit.

-even though He spoke in this way as "the comforter".

"when He the Comforter is come.." <speaking of himself again in third person>
"I will not leave you comfortless, I WILL COME TO YOU".
-and this was not as in a rapture, and not in His visible return.


Again we have his words John 14:18 but note the detail on his coming to you:

“If a man love Me, he will keep My words; and My Father will love him, and *We* will come to him and make *Our* abode with him."


3. here is the clincher. You will love it.
The phrase "Holy Spirit filled" has more for us than we knew. The exact phrase "filled with the Holy Spirit" is found *8* times in scripture.
*8* is the number symbolic of a "new beginning"!


But how could these people be "filled with the Holy Spirit" before the Holy Spirit was given?

Luke 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink, and he shall be 𝒇𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑮𝒉𝒐𝒔𝒕 even from his mother’s womb.
Luke 1:41 And it came to pass, when Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was 𝒇𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑮𝒉𝒐𝒔𝒕.
Luke 1:67 And his father Zacharias was 𝒇𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑮𝒉𝒐𝒔𝒕 and prophesied.

??? We ask because of this in John 7:39

"the Spirit was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified".

What changed from those like Elizabeth and her unborn child John, being "filled with the Holy Spirit" and the Spirit "NOT YET GIVEN"?
JN 7:38 He that believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.”
39 (But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believe in Him should receive;
for the Holy Ghost was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified!
HERE IS THE CHANGE:
It came after Jesus was raised and glorified,
Acts 2:4 And they were all 𝒇𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑮𝒉𝒐𝒔𝒕 and began to speak in other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Now we have the fulfillment of the "we will come and make OUR abode with him".

GOD's SPIRIT and Christ's Spirit are the ONE SPIRIT:

Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, (no separation of Christ and Father's Spirit).(Spirit baptism is not "accepting Christ", communion, or because someone goes forward.

-It is a full baptism of Christ's spirit and will produce fruits of His spirit.
( Most churches will say you have something you never got.)

Here is more showing us "by ONE Spirit":

Eph 2:18 for through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Eph 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Summary:
The Holy, "One Spirit" is God and Christ undivided. Inseparable now.
Before Christ/ Pentecost, the Lord God  created creation, filled people, anointed people, and moved upon people.
-but that was not the Promise of the Spirit of Jesus Christ.
After Jesus glorification, God broke the bread of Christ and gives his spirit it to all that seek Him to receive it, and He does so through Jesus Christ.
Acts 2:33 Therefore, being exalted by the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, He has shed forth this which you now see and hear... (they were speaking in tongues and prophesying). ("I will come unto you", "We will come and make our abode..")


Peter said in Acts 2:17 ....this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel.

17 ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, I will pour out My Spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.
18 And on My servants and on My handmaidens I will pour out in those days My Spirit, and they shall prophesy.
The Holy Spirit is not a mythical "third person", it is the Spirit of GOD and Christ, coming to us undivided and God does not separate Himself into three persons, which scripture never stated.


This is what Father spoke in Feb 2024:
"All that I say to you..
All that I do, *I DO THROUGH MY SON*.

Through Me, He IS WITH YOU AND IS IN YOU."

*After* Pentecost in Acts 2, the "new thing" God would do, He now brings the spirit <character, nature, authority, power etc.> of Jesus that we may be filled with and empowered to become sons of God.
Now I see how so many of us argued for their version of God the Father, His beloved son, Holy Ghost, and did so from our shallow letter traditions. trinity, oneness, JW's, Mormon, Catholic, etc. People repeat what they are told without being equipped by the Holy Spirit to discern tradition from truth.
-all from intellect and carnal traditions without revelation from Father.


THE GIFT HE WANTS TO GIVE AND FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE:

And Peter said unto them, Repent ye, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto the remission of your sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 10:45   And they of the circumcision that believed were amazed, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit. for they heard them speaking with tongues. -first evidence.

Acts 11:17: If then God gave to them (us gentiles) the like gift as he did also unto us, when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I, that I could withstand God?
Acts 19: he said to them, “Have YOU received the Holy Ghost, having believed?


And they said, “We have not so much as heard whether there is a Holy Ghost.”

3 And he said to them, “to what then were you baptized?” They said, “Unto John’s baptism.” 4 Paul replied, “John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe in Him who should come after him, that is, in Christ Jesus.”

5 When they heard this, they were (re) baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Ghost came upon them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied. (evidence)

Think of a glass, that's us. The Holy Spirit is Living Water.
Many are an empty glass, and many empty attend church.

Some have a thimble full. There is room for 16ounces.

God wants us to be filled that others may drink. It is an unending fountain and the glass refilled many many times. When the glass is filled, there is evidence and fruit of life.


It is a free gift, and does not require tithes, nor keeping church law, nor church membership, nor the many laws from the Old Testament.

It WILL: lead you to desire a closer walk with Jesus, a desire to tell others about Him, to feed on his Word for yourself, convict of personal sins and even change your views on many things.
It WILL empower you to be a witness, give you spiritual gifts to use to minister to others, and open your eyes to the Kingdom of God.
It WILL lead you and guide you into more and more Truth while exposing the lies we are surrounded with in the church world and the world system.

ALL by the selfsame Spirit.
1 Corinthians 12:31
But covet earnestly the best gifts, and yet show I unto you a more excellent way.
1 Corinthians 14:39
Therefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak in tongues.

Monday, August 19, 2024




GOD'S FORM

The “form” of God when spoken of in scripture is not physical, but is spirit with shape and form, according to the prophets who saw Him in visions.
-rory moore




Think in terms of a ghost and or spirits that appear to people, you may have even seen something yourself.
Spirit beings include angels, demons, and other beings that can interface between the spirit realm and our physical dimension.

Ezekiel 8:3  And He put forth the form of a hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the Spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem.

Ezekiel 40:2   In the visions of God He brought me into the land of Israel and set me upon a very high mountain, by which there was, as it were, the form of a city on the south.

Daniel 3:25  He answered and said, “Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Philippians 2:6 Jesus. “who, being IN the form of God,

John 5:37  And the Father that sent me, he has borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his form. : the external or outward appearance, form figure, shape.

Just as God’s VOICE was heard audibly with the ear senses at various times, so was his form <shape, figure, likeness, image> seen  in Spiritual vision.
God’s “form” is a literal visible Presence without beginning and without end, undefined by physical borders, and is within the brilliant and glorious light, to which no natural man can see or approach.

This is what many of the prophets saw.
Isaiah 6: In the year that king Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple.. (His “train” being the Light, glory, and radiance emanating from and through the form of Him.

He wants us to know Him.

1kings 22:9  And Micaiah said, Therefore hear thou the word of the Lord: >>> I saw The Lord sitting on his throne <<<, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.
That gives more perspective.

Ezekiel’s vision and the details give perspective and enhance what he “saw”:
Ezekiel 1:1 and I saw visions of God.....and the hand of THE LORD upon him.

1:26  And above the firmament that was over their heads was 
the likeness of a throne as the appearance of a sapphire stone;  and upon the likeness of the throne was a likeness as the appearance of a man upon it above.**

26 Now above the expanse that was over their heads there was something resembling a throne, like lapis lazuli in appearance; and on that which resembled a throne, high up, was a figure with the *appearance of a man.  

*sight, phenomenon, spectacle, appearance, vision.
what is seen
a vision (supernatural)
sight, vision (power of seeing)


27 Then I noticed from the appearance of His loins and upward something like glowing metal that looked like fire all around within it, and from the appearance of His loins and downward I saw something like fire; and there was a radiance around Him.

28 As the appearance of the rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the surrounding radiance.

Without making a lengthy post, there is enough here for the reader to see what they all spoke of, both Jesus and the prophets, in reference to the GOD of heaven, the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ who is blessed forever. Invisible to the natural man, yet seen by the spiritual man.

Matthew 5:8  Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.