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Monday, October 15, 2018

"My Lord and My God"



"MY LORD AND MY GOD".




John 20:28   Thomas answered and said to him, My Lord and my God.

People often point to that verse as a doctrine but ignore two other passages in the same chapter that do not agree with what they *think* Thomas meant. 

Let’s see three verses in the same chapter.

20:17 Jesus *said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them:
‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God’
20:28 And Thomas answered and said to him, My Lord and my God.
20:31  <John> but these have been written  that you may believe that  Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.

( which is the same revelation Peter confessed in Mat. 16, and the same message the apostles preached all through Acts.

Consider:
1. Why is there not a single example in Acts of anyone saying "Jesus is God as they preached who Jesus is?
2. Is the word “God" exclusive to the God and Father of Jesus Christ,
or are men called "God" also?

3. How many times is Jesus called “son of God” vs the times someone said “Jesus is God”? (using NASB/ or KJV)

GOD or god?:

A letter "H"with a number refers to the original Hebrew word. 
ex. H410 "eloheim":  is used as God, Gods, judges, rulers.
A letter "G"with a number refers to the original Greek word. 

ex. G2316 "theos": God/Gods  

 -The  word for "god" and “God”  in the *Greek is "theos",  and is used of men also, as Jesus said to the leaders of Israel when he quoted  "ye are gods.."

John 10:34-35 Jesus answered them, “Has it not been written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’?  If HE (GOD-Father) called them gods <theos>, to whom the word of GOD <theos> came ".....

Do you see that men are called "gods" -theos, and "Word of GOD" -theos are used  in the same verse and refer to BOTH men and *GOD ?   <*The LORD Almighty>.

So why are men as "God/s?
The truth is both "theos" in the Greek, and "eloheim" in the OT Hebrew can refer to The One true God, OR TO AN EXALTED MAN OR MEN.

What Thomas, a Jewish Israelite, knew from his Hebrew Bible:
Psalm 58:11 Do you indeed speak righteousness, O gods? Do you judge uprightly, O sons of men?
Psalm 81:9 9 "Let no strange god be among you; Nor shall you worship any foreign god.
Psalm 89:26 26 "He will cry to Me, 'You are my Father, My God <H410>, and the rock of my salvation.'

In Daniel 11:36 this is demonstrated as “the GOD of Gods”:
GOD <H410> <a reference to YHWH Almighty> and god <H410, generic god/s>
T
he GOD H410 of gods

Moses was "eloheim-god” to pharaoh in Exodus 4:16, Baal a false god was  eloheim, the human judges were "eloheim" the same word used for GOD.   And YHWH<aka Jehovah> was "Eloheim",  even though YHWH was above all that is called "god".

Again we find this in the New Testament:
Hebrews 1:8-9 but of the Son HE <i.e. GOD> says, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore GOD, thy GOD, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Here is another example:
1 Corinthians 8:5 For even if there are so-called gods <theos>
=>> whether in heaven or on earth, ==> as indeed there are many gods <theos> and many lords,  6 yet for us there is but one GOD <theos> , the FATHER, from whom are all things and we exist for HIM;  AND one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

Therefore Thomas could call the risen Christ "my God" in the same sense of an exalted man, a ruler, a "mighty one":
G2316 θεός theos   uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with G3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively a magistrate; by Hebraism very: - exceeding, God, god [-ly, -ward].
"God" H430 eloheim

Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates (judges and rulers); and sometimes as a superlative: - angels,  exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly),  (very) great, judges,  mighty.

This also reconciles Isaiah 9:6 “his name shall be called … mighty God..”,  "The LORD (YHWH) said to my Lord...",  and Hebrews 1 "to the *son* *HE* said "thy throne O God..."

The John 20:28 passage has stumbled many because of our English word concepts with  three possible meanings. We take clear passages with only one meaning when trying to understand passages that seem to have more than one meaning.

These are three possible meanings.
1.  Thomas calling him Lord ( as one of authority) and God (Gods Representative, divine in his glorified state), or
2. As an exclamation, MY LORD AND MY GOD! -as an expression of shock and surprise as people do.
3. Calling him LORD (Yhwh) and GOD (The Almighty)

Just reading a few verses before should help us understand that the last is not a possibility.

John 20:17 (NASB) Jesus *said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.'"

We should realize the word “God” or “theos” is not an all exclusive term for the Almighty. It may refer to anything likened unto God, Gods Representative, or one entrusted with the word of God, a judge. All of which apply to Jesus.

Jesus said the Father is the ONLY true God and he said the Father is "MY God".

John said exactly why he wrote what he wrote in John 20:31(NASB)

but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God;
and that believing you may have life in His name.

Summary:
How many times did anyone say or preach  “Jesus IS GOD”?  -0.
How many times did anyone say or preach Jesus is the “SON of God?  42 Times (NASB)

and note, Thomas did not say, nor did anyone in the entire New Testament say to Jesus
"YOU ARE GOD!"

Witnesses are needed to establish any doctrine.
"In the mouth of two or three witness let every word be established".
Where the witness saying "Jesus is God" or saying TO Jesus "YOU are God"?

And compare that to those that said "You are THE CHRIST" and You are "THE SON OF GOD", and include all those preachers filled with the Spirit in Acts when they told people who Jesus is..