A STRONG DELUSION
- What happened to all the Comet Elenin alignment dates and doomsayers?
- Were there “3 days of darkness”?
- Wasn't Planet X supposed to be visible by September 2011?
- The polar shift did not materialize when Comet Elenin zoomed by nor did the solar flares, earthquakes, and tsunamis materialize as expected by the doomsayers....
- The Gulf of Mexico did not explode nor did they nuke the well to close it.
- Hoover Dam was not blown up by terrorists on 11-11-11
Consider these failed prophesies, predictions and dates:
- The New Madrid fault did not split the United States apart on May 14, 2011,
as one group of dream-driven believers believed and anticipated. - Washington DC was not nuked 9-9-10 as a radio prophet positively predicted.
- a number of dreams about the BP oil well blowing up last year failed.
- FEMA did not declare Martial Law and round up Gulf residents into camps in 2010.
- The”man child” was not “anointed” either of two dates in Sept. or October 4-14 2011, or "definitely before the end of 2011".
- The tribulation did not begin in 2005 or as speculated every year after. (eventually it will)
- Judgment Day did not arrive May 21st, or on Oct. 21, 2011 as thousands were convinced.
- 6-5-2005 a minister-teacher said "President Bush will have a third term and be assassinated..." on his radio program
- President Bush did not declare Martial Law and extend his time in office, nor was he violently taken out. (2008)
- Hillary Clinton was not elected president. (2008)
- The earthquake dates in 2011 ALL FAILED..., and nobody predicted the ones that happened!
- Aug. 30, 2011 : the upper New Madrid did not create the "abyss" in Tennessee leaving an "ark-shaped" piece of land for a refuge in which the faithful could move in and occupy the abandoned properties of the local residents that would flee, as speculated by an internet radio ministry with “confirming” dreams..
- Pittsburgh Pa, 1-19-2012 Thus says Yahweh, “January 19 is a day that will live in infamy. I will send fire from the heavens upon Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Destruction is decreed from the beltway to the parkway. These three will be in the earth: fire, blood and brimstone. It will come from Me.
Is the pattern of failed dreams and revelations a "working of error" that indeed leads astray??
One minister calls these dreams “God’s tongue”
Does “God’s tongue” give false dates time and time again?
Ministries compile hundreds of disaster predictions, dreams, YouTube videos, government reports, secular sources, and information from unreliable sources on a regular basis.
Let’s put this “working of error” in perspective.
In 2010-2011 there have been a number of tremendous earthquakes.
Chile, New Zealand, Japan, and Haiti for examples. NONE of the DREAMERS or WATCHMEN MINISTRIES SAW ANY OF THEM COMING!
In 2010-2011 there have been a number of tremendous earthquakes.
Chile, New Zealand, Japan, and Haiti for examples. NONE of the DREAMERS or WATCHMEN MINISTRIES SAW ANY OF THEM COMING!
Weighed and found wanting
Most of the people promoting and circulating this error never repent for missing so many doom-dates.
How many failed dreams-disasters-prognostications will it take to open our eyes? .....“take heed that no man lead you astray” that Jesus said ???
These ministries and leaders continue to "bewitch" God's people as Paul wrote in Galatians 3:1.You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?
- In the Revelation, John was given many prophecies, but not one single date.
- the date for the prophesied birth of Jesus was not given, though the event was prophesied.
- Jesus also prophesied of the destruction of Jerusalem.
Interestingly, Jerusalem would fall to the Romans on the exact same date as it did 600 years before, but no date was given! (Jerusalem fell twice on the 9th of Av)
What does that say for the ministries that put forth dates, dreams and disasters as compared to the disciples of Jesus that NEVER did?
Paul often warned of the seductive bondage of legalism using words like "subvert your souls" "bewitched", and "troubled you with words". The amazing delusion is the be-witchers are themselves deceived in turn deceiving others.
The followers are brought into bondage through focusing on dates/ dreams/ and disasters.
These are promoted through unclean spirits of fear and divination and see what the angel told the disciples in Acts 1:7:
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know times or seasons,
which the Father hath set within His own authority.
Now I know we can say that context spoke of Israel, but let us point out the word “times” is plural
and the reality-check that not once in the New Covenant are calendars or dates given.
God’s warnings
Has the Lord given us a standard in His Word to discern the working of error?
It’s seems so...
And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits and unto the wizards that chirp and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? on behalf of the living should they seek unto the dead? (Isaiah 8:19)
And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst of it; (Egypt is the world and its report)
and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek unto the idols,
God’s warnings
Has the Lord given us a standard in His Word to discern the working of error?
It’s seems so...
And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits and unto the wizards that chirp and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? on behalf of the living should they seek unto the dead? (Isaiah 8:19)
And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst of it; (Egypt is the world and its report)
and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek unto the idols,
and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards. ( Isa 19:3)
counsel -advice; counsel, purpose.
IDOLS (H457) good for nothing, vanity; specifically an idol: no value, (as with all the failed dates and disasters) “no value”...
charmers (H328) perhaps meaning to move softly; from their soft incantations: -gently, secret, softly.
wizards (H3049) a knowing one; specifically a conjurer; (by implication) a ghost: - wizard.
“Wizards“, wise” or “knowing” people.
They can be people that are trying to “divine” God through knowledge, news and reports.
They can claim special insight or understanding in a way to promote their voice or ministry.
A “conjurer ”: one that may cause dreams to be dreamed or other means of obtaining knowledge by seeking to divine the Will or voice of God through dreams.
“Let not ….. and your diviners, deceive you; neither listen to your dreams which you cause to be dreamed. For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them.” (Jer 29:8-9)
Yes, God speaks through dreams, at His Will. But God’s people were never told to seek after dreams. The visible signs Jesus told us to look for would seem to be plainly observed and seen without special computer software, dreams or government telescopes.
2Thes 2:11 indicates a “strong delusion" is also rendered "a working of error"
And for this cause God sent them a working of error, they should believe a lie.
a STRONG DELUSION: Strongs 1753/ 4106
BELIEVE: (Strongs #4100)
LIE: Strongs #5579 PSEUDOS (pseudo)
Mat. 24A “conjurer ”: one that may cause dreams to be dreamed or other means of obtaining knowledge by seeking to divine the Will or voice of God through dreams.
“Let not ….. and your diviners, deceive you; neither listen to your dreams which you cause to be dreamed. For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them.” (Jer 29:8-9)
Yes, God speaks through dreams, at His Will. But God’s people were never told to seek after dreams. The visible signs Jesus told us to look for would seem to be plainly observed and seen without special computer software, dreams or government telescopes.
2Thes 2:11 indicates a “strong delusion" is also rendered "a working of error"
And for this cause God sent them a working of error, they should believe a lie.
a STRONG DELUSION: Strongs 1753/ 4106
- "Strong": an operation of energetic strong effectual working.
- “Delusion": a wandering, a straying about one led astray from the right way, error,
wrong opinion relative to morals or religion - error which shows itself in action, a wrong mode of acting
- error, that which leads into error, deceit or fraud
…. That they should *BELIEVE* a LIE...
BELIEVE: (Strongs #4100)
- to think to be true, to be persuaded of, to credit, place confidence in, intellectual faith…
LIE: Strongs #5579 PSEUDOS (pseudo)
- conscious and intentional falsehood, whatever is not what it seems to be , of perverse, impious, deceitful precepts
Jesus' #1 sign was a warning to us about those leading astray
When the disciples of Jesus asked Him about the “sign” of His return, the FIRST SIGN Jesus gave them was:
“take heed no man lead you astray. Many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and shall lead many astray. And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that ye be not troubled...
-the first “sign” was of people that “confess Christ” would come and lead many astray!
Do you think a pattern of failed dates, dreams and predictions qualifies?
Do followers of these false words and signs become addicted to fear and being “troubled”?
Now consider the failed dreams, dates and disaster warnings.
Does the scripture indicate a "working of error" or were these warnings God’s truth?
Do you still want to pass along more of the “pseudo” dreams, dates and predictions to people you work with, your relatives or your neighbors offering them “proof” of a Youtube video, some-body's website, or what you heard on a radio program?
Some of us did, and we lost a lot of credibility when the events never materialized!!
The Seduction of Knowledge
Knowledge is the same door that drew Eve away from the Lord...
And there are others:
"Desire to know the future" or "fascination with doom" or "desire to KNOW special knowledge and end-time events." Not to mention fear, paranoia, self preservation, and a “refuge mentality.” Not exactly the fruit of faith!
Many of God’s people have been caught up in “the latest news, speculations, and rumors, at the price of truly hearing the Lord and following His Spirit.
These fear-inducing stories, rumors and reports influence people to do things they would not normally do. Some have sold homes and business in order to relocate to a "safe” zone. Others have depleted retirement accounts. Others have ostracized and alienated family and friends who are not on board with the warnings of imminent doom.
What goes hand-in-hand with the date-disaster deception is the spirit of idolatry that comes over us when we follow the date setter ministries..
We know there is idolatry when we defend, justify, or ignore their error.
We know there is idolatry when we defend, justify, or ignore their error.
Do you actually think a ministry putting forth failed dates speaks for God?
Do you still think a ministry putting forth failed dates speaks for God?
or will you believe "Take heed that no man lead you astray", which is where the fear, dates, and paranoia will take us.
Does a “little leaven” leaven the whole lump?
Are you ready to turn from the dreams, visions and ear tickling predictions that never happen?
Are you at least willing to rethink and pray about the unending stream of hypothesized disasters, NASA reports, government “cover-ups” and conspiracy postulating YouTube videos and the “WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF…” scenarios pushing you into a constant state of unrest?
Will you seek the Lord in these matters with an attitude of renouncing all idolatry and every voice of men and asking the Lord to tell you what you need to know.
It is as simple as asking Him something like, “Lord Jesus, will there be a pole-shift on 11-11-11?” or whatever date the false prophet is giving?
The amazing thing is when we specifically asked the Lord about a predicted quake, Comet Elenin or tsunamis, we heard nothing. -and nothing happened!
That’s the point- we need to hear God for ourselves, test the spirits and test the fruit.
We must turn from relying on “ministries” which generate fear, paranoia and desire for self preservation in the name of Christ, but in reality draw us away from Him.
Delivered and cleansed
I confess my own guilt concerning the error described thus far. My wife and I postponed educational and business decisions because this “working of error” skewed our outlook and hope for the future. It affected our children and created a negative, fatalistic view of life that affected our family goals and long range planning.
Are we saying the men and women spreading these rumors are evil folks or intentionally deceiving? ---> No. ←-
However, ANYONE CAN BE DECEIVED!
Our heart is deceptively wicked. Unrepentant idolatry will result in GOD sending "a working of error."
The Lord, by His grace, has granted us repentance and deliverance from the error that had us bound. We can now rest in His promises concerning end time events:
Will you seek the Lord in these matters with an attitude of renouncing all idolatry and every voice of men and asking the Lord to tell you what you need to know.
It is as simple as asking Him something like, “Lord Jesus, will there be a pole-shift on 11-11-11?” or whatever date the false prophet is giving?
The amazing thing is when we specifically asked the Lord about a predicted quake, Comet Elenin or tsunamis, we heard nothing. -and nothing happened!
That’s the point- we need to hear God for ourselves, test the spirits and test the fruit.
We must turn from relying on “ministries” which generate fear, paranoia and desire for self preservation in the name of Christ, but in reality draw us away from Him.
Delivered and cleansed
I confess my own guilt concerning the error described thus far. My wife and I postponed educational and business decisions because this “working of error” skewed our outlook and hope for the future. It affected our children and created a negative, fatalistic view of life that affected our family goals and long range planning.
Are we saying the men and women spreading these rumors are evil folks or intentionally deceiving? ---> No. ←-
However, ANYONE CAN BE DECEIVED!
Our heart is deceptively wicked. Unrepentant idolatry will result in GOD sending "a working of error."
The Lord, by His grace, has granted us repentance and deliverance from the error that had us bound. We can now rest in His promises concerning end time events:
Because you have made the LORD, who is my refuge
No evil shall befall you, Nor shall any plague come near your dwelling;
Luke 21:8 J.B. Phillips New Testament
8-9 “Be careful that you are not deceived,” he
replied. There will be many coming in my name, saying ‘I am
he’ and ‘The time is very near now.’
Never follow men like that......
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Luke 21:8 (NIV)
8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and,
‘The time is near.’
Do not follow them.
Luke 21:8 (ASV)
8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not led
astray: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am he; and, The time is at hand:
go ye not after them.
And in the Numeric ASV:
and He said see you be not led astray,
for many shall come in my name saying "I am He";
and "the season is near", GO NOT AFTER THEM.
These are deceivers and antichrist.
These are deceivers and antichrist.
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ReplyDeleteAmen to all Brother Rory posted without mentioning names (names of people or ministries) - it's unnecessary, unless it's truly God in a person mentioning names. If it's not God mentioning names of the teachers He causes us to "outgrow," then let us heed the warning in HOSEA 4:4 - "But let no man bring a charge, nor let anyone accuse another, for your people are like those who bring charges against a priest." Hosea wrote this to a people who were accusing their apostate priests and prophets back in that day for the judgments that befell them, but the people themselves were to blame because although they were called to be a nation of priests (EXO. 9:5-6), just like we are called to be (REV. 1:5), they rejected knowledge for themselves and relied on a "super priest's" knowledge instead.
ReplyDeleteYou are a priest of God! Seek truth for yourself. But before God will give you more truth, He needs humility from you - a humility that admits, your favorite teachers can be very wrong, but so can you if you are the one who exalted that teacher to take away your priestly responsibility to seek truth for yourself.
Some of the names we are tempted to discredit (but which Rory did not discredit, other than his humble mention of his own name) will experience INCREDIBLE repentance, and some will be too proud to repent and fall away forever. We ourselves must be patient with all of them, while taking in truth for ourselves, for we are priests - let us not shame another "priest" but let us shame ourselves if we have ignored our role as priests.
If we heed these things, then the Scripture will not fail to come to pass that says, "I have more insight then all my teachers, for Your testimonies are my meditation" (PSALM 119:100).
As for everything Rory wrote, Rory, you have very humbly left it up to the Holy Spirit to lead each of your readers to apply this humbling truth as He wills for them to. Thanks for the article and the example we ought to follow as we continue to assemble, yes, but study the Bible for ourselves to swallow truth when we hear it and spit out leaven when we hear it, first in ourselves, and then in those who feed us. "For we know in part and prophesy in part, but when the perfect is come, then the partial will be done away with." This goes for ourselves and for every other "priest of God" we assemble together with.
amen Chris. There is no need to mention names, as there would be a list of them....
ReplyDeleteThe examples of failed dates (the "observing of times" mentioned in scripture), is something rather common now, and I praise God we have been delivered from that heresy, even at the price of being labeled "factious" by the "observers of times" -dates....
May God give his people eyes to see and ears to hear His voice and His spirit. May every working of error, lying spirit, and demon doctrine be revealed, uprooted, and repented of by God's people!!!
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I was reading this last nite, and saw it clearly. We wondered "HOW DID WE MISS THIS???"
ReplyDeleteLuke 21:8 J.B. Phillips New Testament
8-9 “Be careful that you are not deceived,” he replied. “There will be many coming in my name, saying ‘I am he’ and ‘The time is very near now.’
Never follow men like that......
.....
Luke 21:8 (NIV)
8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’
Do not follow them.
Luke 21:8
American Standard Version (ASV)
8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not led astray: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am he; and, The time is at hand:
go ye not after them.
And in the Numeric ASV:
and He said see you be not led astray,
for many shall come in my name saying "I am He";
and "the season is near",
GO NOT AFTER THEM.
The guys saying the time is at hand, the season is near, indeed lead many astray.
The FIRST warning Jesus gave regarding the end times was the SIGN that mnany would lead astray,
and that it would be those saying "the TIME is at hand".
My brother, God has given you great insight and discernment and you are using it wisely.
ReplyDeleteI say Praise the Lord! Hallelujah what joy to read what all MUST come to understand otherwise great deceptions will hid itself to mislead many through a strong delusion. The verses that came to mind are the following, especially the 1st part of Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son.
ReplyDeleteHeb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
WE ARE NOT to rely on dreams to validate the times we are in or give us direction. We have the whole Word of God, what else do we need? We have a home-church and my husband was called by the Lord in 2001 to be a shepherd/pastor and he’s a dreamer, many, many awesome dreams. We preach continually read the Word and ourselves read the word relentlessly for the past 30 years; read you bible, read your bible, read your bible….it never gets old “if” you continue to ask the Lord to speak to you through his word he will and guide you to WHAT you need to know and you’ll be so satisfied and filled with so much wonderful things…it’s like eating at a banquet. It is vital…to come into the fullness of the Kingdom of God that is His “Fruit of the Spirit”….Jesus is worthy to read all he wrote to his beloved people…he said His Word is above his Name!
I’ve always have been amused by all the disaster dreams people have….all we need to do is take a look at what a few of our dear brothers like Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, all the minor prophets and then John who was given the book of Revelation, how much more would a believer need to know things are going to get very tough?
My desire is to know ALL the Wonderful things God has for us. The Great and Mighty things the Lord is going to do through his vessels of honor. He’s going to make His Name Great upon this earth one more time and he is going to use those who yield, surrender, obey, summit to the mighty hand of our Lord and Savior. Amen!