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Saturday, December 23, 2023

1God Thomas to Rest, My God it's Time

Time to change our view. 



A man asked:
“QUESTION to you anti-christ's here who say Thomas is not directing "my God" to him (Jesus).

Why is it that all the scriptures of the gospels, regarding the apostles walking with Jesus, they all already called him "Lord"?
But now that Thomas is saying "My Lord and my God", so that Jesus is saying "you have seen me and have believed" Believed what? That he lives?
Thomas was the LAST of the apostles to see Jesus alive again.

So.... It wasn't him seeing Jesus as his "Lord"/"Master". What was it that Thomas saw?
Could it be something similar <the revelation> to when Peter said "you are the Christ the son of God" and Jesus said "flesh and blood has not shown you this Peter bar Jonas, but my Father in Heaven has revealed it to you". 

My answer so that we can put Thomas to rest.

1. Calling  Jesus “Lord” is not calling Jesus “Yehovah”. “Lord” is master, kurios, not LORD/Yehovah” the Father.
Jesus is named Jesus. 
Yehovah called HIMSELF “YEHOVAH”, “my name forever”.

2. “ Could it be something similar to when Peter said "you are the Christ the son of God" and Jesus said "flesh and blood hath not shown you this Peter bar Jonas, but my Father in Heaven has revealed it to you".
Ans.: Did Jesus affirm Thomas’ exclamation with a similar affirmation as Jesus did with Peter?
NO! Jesus spoke of believing his resurrection!

3. Was Thomas with the others and received the Holy Ghost in Acts 2?  YES!
4. Did Thomas preach the “similar revelation” in Acts?  NO!
5. Did Peter preach Thomas’ “similar revelation in Acts ?   NO!

6. Did PETER preach his “revelation” of Jesus in Acts?  YES!
7. According to Joseph Russell, is Peter “antichrist” for not preaching the “Deity of Christ” and/ or Thomas’ exclamation?   YES!
8. Did Peter preach the revelation of Jesus Christ in Acts? YES! (numerous times)
9. Do I believe and preach what Peter preached? -YES!
10. Did Peter preach the words “Deity of Christ”  –NO!

11. Was Thomas present when "Peter, taking his stand with the eleven, raised his voice and declared to them” who Jesus is? –YES!

Acts 2:22 “Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him…36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christthis Jesus whom you crucified.”

 Acts 3: 6 But Peter said, “I do not possess silver and gold, but what I do have I give to you: In the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene—walk!

Acts 4:8
  Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them..
10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead
—26 ‘The kings of the earth took their stand, And the rulers were gathered together against the Lord and against His Christ.’

27 For truly in this city there were gathered together against Your holy servant Jesus, whom You anointed

Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you had put to death by hanging Him on a cross. 31 He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel.
 :42 every day.. they kept right on
teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ. 

-BUT they were not “teaching and preaching Jesus is God”.

Acts 10, Peter:
The word which He sent to the sons of Israel, preaching peace through Jesus Christ (He is Lord of all)
 37 you yourselves know the thing which took place throughout all Judea, starting from Galilee, after the baptism which John proclaimed. 
38 You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power

Do the preachers in Acts affirm the antichrist accusation or state the “Jesus is God” doctrine?
NO!

PART 2 Thinking it over.
Does Thomas exclaiming "...MY GOD" in one place override and negate Jesus calling GOD "MY GOD" in FOURETEEN references? 
Thomas said it in an undefined manner as an exclamation without another person saying the same words or quoting him,  but when Jesus says it 14 times in specifics, should that be ignored?

If we want to speculate,  ASSUMING Thomas is saying to Jesus "YOU ARE MY Jehovah and my God!" but Jesus said I ascend "TO MY GOD and your God..." same chapter.
LISTEN TO JESUS!
Matthew 27:46
 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, **MY GOD**, **MY GOD**, why have you forsaken me?
John 20:17   Jesus said to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to the Father: but go unto my brethren, and say to them, I ascend to MY FATHER and your Father, and **MY GOD** and your God.
Revelation 3:12 He that overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of **MY GOD**, and he shall go out thence no more: and I will write upon him the name of **MY GOD**,
and the name of the city of **MY GOD**, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from **MY GOD**, and mine own new name....
Can you see the truth?
Neither "Jesus is God", nor "Jesus is my God" was ever preached.
Only by inferences and imposing the traditional view over passages such as John 20:28 do people make scripture say what is not said.

My other post on Thomas is
HERE.

Putting Thomas to Rest "My God" it's Time




1 comment:

  1. Greetings Rory. I believe this short video is a far better explanation of John 20:28
    Jews of that era do not say things such as OMG as people do today!
    https://t.co/uearWEzwpK

    See also https://www.patheos.com/blogs/kermitzarleyblog/2013/11/thomas-said-to-christ-my-lord-and-my-god-he-meant-gods-in-christ-to-which-we-should-nod/

    Thank You

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