tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9122974069955230279.post7538732249421187661..comments2023-12-08T09:58:34.870-08:00Comments on Preparinghisway : rory moore: Is Revelation 4:1 The "rapture"?Roryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16810813012270439254noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9122974069955230279.post-66726593737974815362020-02-28T05:49:38.390-08:002020-02-28T05:49:38.390-08:00Thanks for this! While I believe in the rapture, I...Thanks for this! While I believe in the rapture, I'm still trying to decide whether i believe in a pre-trib or a pre-wrath rapture. The argument i often hear about Rev 4 identifying the timing of the rapture never felt right to me, and your post here really helped reinforce some of the thoughts I'd already had.<br /><br />Another argument I've often heard in support of Rev 4 identifying the timing of the rapture is that the church isn't referenced on earth after that, so they must be gone. I find, however, that they also aren't referenced in heaven - Rev 5:11 places angels, the four living creatures, and the 24 elders around the throne, but no "saints", believers in Christ, or the church are to be found there yet.Roy S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16063075382109747738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9122974069955230279.post-67257843683871504292014-03-18T10:50:55.615-07:002014-03-18T10:50:55.615-07:00People often use Rev. 4:1 as a "type" or...People often use Rev. 4:1 as a "type" or figure for the pre-trib rapture. Upon examination and testing, it is not so as the article points out why this text bears no relationship to the pre-trib rapture theory. Please see the article, "Rapture Made Simple" and may you grow in graceRoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16810813012270439254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9122974069955230279.post-67794019504128223862014-03-17T16:50:00.134-07:002014-03-17T16:50:00.134-07:00Obviously, John was invited to a VISION of the rap...Obviously, John was invited to a VISION of the rapture, not the actual event, because it HAS NOT HAPPENED YET.D Doyle Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05668576228753384921noreply@blogger.com